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[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Their logic is: Workplaces aren't buying copilot licenses So make a good price on personal licenses

If price is the barrier, maybe bring down that $30 license fee for business (which is on top of the M365 license) to see if adoption grows.

This is not going to win any friends in the business world and will most likely result in blanket bans of AI tools in the workplace to counteract this.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 3 months ago

This is already happening.

I work for very large IT company and they are upgrading to Windows 11 because they have to but AI tools like co-pilot are being blocked by default in the image we push to all users.

This is resulted in a very funny knowledge base article which basically tells the support staff to tell the users to go do one if they complain about it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Any job openings for a sysadmin?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Banning work controlled ai is incredibly short sighted

You will just end up with a whole bunch of shadow ai that you can't control what users upload or how they use it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Well co-pilot sends all it's data to Microsoft as is.

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The issue there is that even at that pricepoint, Microsoft is still operating CoPilot at a loss. If they drop it more, they’ll be making even more of a loss. Which is the standard business model for new products these days, but the losses on AI products dwarf things like Netflix and Uber during their “operate at a loss to drive everybody else out of business” phase.

Of course, that would all be fine if CoPilot was some killer product that people quickly found themselves unable to work without. Instead, the feedback shows that workers find that it’s not useful or reliable enough to be worth using, and Microsoft’s own latest advert for CoPilot in Excel contains data which shows that at best operation it doesn’t work 46% of the time, and that figure can be as high as 80%.

I’m not sure these problems are really surmountable - you’ve got an incredibly expensive-to-run product which doesn’t do much that’s useful and is bad at the things that it actually could be useful for. It’s not just Microsoft, it’s the entire tech industry that’s facing this problem.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

My company actually got their own internal use AI that supposedly is safe for client information and is firewalled and not scraped.

It is not very useful, constantly is out of service, and I don't trust for a second that it is secure/not scraped.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago

I always suspect that even the "local" models somehow connect to some larger database out in the internet.

[-] holomorphic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Why would a company want to do that for their own internal use? Models you can download are mostly just data. They don't do anything on their own. You can even write your own interpreter for them, if you feel like it.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I doubt IT admins are surprised. Frustrated, yes.

I feel like this will not last long. It's one thing to rape end users, but with the growing corporate backlash against AI, I think angry money will win the day, and Microsoft will back down.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Nah, as long as Microsoft dangles their bullshit stats about improved productivity in front of managers and as long as the competition is using AI then the bosses will keep trying to shoehorn it in to their companies that don't need it.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 3 months ago

Copilot is disabled by default in my company. And there’s literally a new policy/guideline about the use of AI/LLM in the workplace being released every month because of how rapid changes are happening. Not that employees aren’t allowed to use them at all, but are restricted in what they are allowed to use.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

Someone should tell them that freemium doesn’t work well when there’s a linear increase in cost for every additional query, and when the business value for your exceptionally expensive product is nebulous at best.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

That's why they're pushing so hard now. They can't keep it free forever. They need you to become reliant upon it to perform even the simplest of tasks now so when they monetize usage it has already become a must have. That way they can count on your subscription no matter what.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 3 months ago

Welcome to the AI bubble. It's going to be a wild ride possibly taking other sectors if not a country or two with it when it falls from grace.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I don't think these lemmings cheering for the bubble pop understand how bad this will be. Gotta happen sometime, better sooner than later, but fuck me it's going to be disastrous. Reminds of of October, 1929.

[-] xylogx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is stupid. As an IT administrator a quick glance at my logs shows that everyone is using ChatGPT. No one cares about Copilot.

edit: So I guess the point is that IT admins are frustrated that Copilot for users in an org is $30 per month vs $10 per month for a home user. Again, I don't buy it. If I think of all the ways MS is screwing me, this is not high on the list. Microsoft's predatory bundling practices have driven the cost of their services to a ridiculous point, well before this Copilot noise.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Idk. Since ms is a walled garden. If you want your ai to read your documents and mail and whatever else you have at work copilot is easily the only way to do that effectively.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Except it doesn't do much of anything effectively

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Please use it

[-] sigezayaq@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

do you mean ChatGPT the website? Because you can use chatgpt models through copilot, but there are other models too.

[-] Clesston@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Hey my work is forcing me to do an 8 hour class on copilot. This feels super unnecessary. Like, I know how to type a prompt. What else could I learn in 8 hours?

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