I honestly wouldn’t mind a thick phone if it also included aux port and larger battery.
IS IT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR A PHONE THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED AND SURVIVE LIFE!?
sorry to yell. i just feel like i'm going crazy
Fairphone is the closest we have. It's trivial to replace battery and other components.
It doesn't have 3.5mm jack.
FP3 does
so long as the corners are sloped/rounded, phones can be like 1cm thick no problem, and i truly do not understand the obsession with thinner phones
our hands are curved, why do people want a bunch of empty space between the palm and the phone? might as well fill that space with battery.
That was basically how the pre-lenovo Motorola phones were all built. Take the Nexus 6 for example, the edges were really thin, only a few mm, but the back curved so at the middle it was nearly a cm thick.

That phone was a goddamn tank I dropped my Nexus 6 down a flight of concrete stairs without a case and by some miracle only the plastic on one corner was scratched. I stopped at HTC One down those exact same stairs and it disintegrated before it hit stair 3.
I still have mine its amazing and will outlive me.
Its honestly all making me think I should build a palmtop and shove a 5g module in it. Screw text messaging (matrix), screw phone service (I'll just set up VoIP), who needs a play store when ive got apt repos.
I don't care if it feels like 2007 in my pocket. I'll stick an 18650 or two in there and swap it when I need to. I can even be more ridiculous and make the keyboard mechanical.
To answer your question before its asked, yes, there is plenty wrong with me. Still though.
If you get around to making two, I'll buy the second one off of you.
(Sent from my GPD Win Max 2...)
I just want a modern phone in the body of an iPhone 5S (with an edge-to-edge display instead of the home button)
Does this really sell phones? Why don't you make it match the camera bump, even just a little bit and give us back the aux and maybe more battery life.
Of course they won't do that because then they wouldn't have an excuse to force us to buy their expensive bluetooth earbuds.
Argh I hate those bumps. My phone has one and it can't lay evenly on any surface because of this >:(
A lens (the bottom one that hits the ground first) cracked the first week I got my iPhone 16, setting it down on a glass table.
Its a hairline crack, but still.
And it was in a case, but the bump is so freaking big the camera barely sticks out.
Meanwhile my old HTC and Razer phones (and old iPhones) never had this problem... Oh, but I forgot, they were a millimeter thicker and non-rectangles, therefore unusable?
Blame your non-square ass hands!
- apple, probably
I always have used a case because of this shit for the last 10 years when the camera bump bullshit started.
My current phone has a slight camera bump but it has less thickness than the case so that's no problem for me. The thicker bumps are not acceptable IMO. Although I don't care quite as much about that as I do about the hole punch in the screen for a selfie cam. My current phone also has a bezel selfie camera like in the civilized old days.
i have been an Android user through and through. Don't want to give an enny to the giant oligopoly spearhead if i can help it...
Anyways, my colleague had bought an iPhone 6 an year after it was released. I remember to this day vividly, we were in the elevator, we were talking about it. He took it out, I held his iPhone 6 in my hand, and it was the most surreal experience I have had with technology up until that point.
It just felt Unbelievable, Unreal, to see a phone so lightweight, so thin, so compact, and not be a toy/downscaled dummy unit. Even the curved sides, which were aesthetically unappealing at first in photos, just clicked when I actually held the phone in my own hand.
It's been almost a decade, and still I feel like I have never seen a smartphone that had such a perfect in hand feeling.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't buy it because Android just had too much going for it and for my preference and use case, iOS never was going to be a consideration. But for a fleeting moment, I really envied my colleague for having one of the best feeling smartphones at the time.
Apple is great when it comes to design and aesthetics. Jobs was known for being great at conveying a feeling in his presentations, and their products were always aimed at a "it just works, don't worry about how" crowd. It's no wonder they were copied left and right (slide to unlock, round corners etc., as ridiculous as some of those patents are).
That said, I feel like Android and iOS have come ever closer to equality. Google is locking down their walled garden, both app stores have basically become useless - apps are just custom browsers to webpages now and games suuuuck - with the exception that Apple's walled garden enables compilation and therefore better battery efficiency, which in turn makes phones lighter.
Though amusing, I feel it's worth noting this image had to go back over a decade—eleven years—to find an iPhone without a camera bump of some kind, and would have to go back 6 years to get a pro-level camera without a plateau of some kind.
I agree that a dual measurement should be included, body thickness and camera plateau, but it never has been, so here we are.
And to give credit where it's due, I have no desire to own an iPhone Air, but it IS a bit of astonishing engineering. They've used the plateau to provide a place for the logic board, and turned basically the entire body into a battery to preserve decent battery life. Love 'em or hate 'em, Apple has a world-class engineering team.
It's not really astonishing, that's Apple's marketing speaking. Phones have been thinner than this and the tech that Apple are using now already exists in many phones. Apple are great at selling something as new and innovative, their marketing is what is astonishing.
an amazing engineering achievement for sure, but i just wonder what consumer wanted thinner phones.
I'd buy an iphone immediately if they gave me a chunky phone that lasted a week on a single charge. now THAT would be an engineering achievement lol
Love 'em or hate 'em, Apple
Sir, this is a Lemmy
I feel like this is another well planned marketing campain to have people talk about the new iphone etc.
That is kinda what drives me away from the Xiaomi 14/15 Ultra. Amazing camera, but even with a case it sticks out, and I drop phones all the time.

Biblically accurate camera.
My god, what even is this monstrosity
Thks is what happens when you let the marketing dept. have even a taste of alcohol.
Don't think it was alcohol that was involved
Worse, the marketing department.
It has slimmed down to a gentle flat plane ... and due to underground tectonic forces, a small ridge is forming that will grow to become a mountain range in future versions
Who let geologists out of the basement?
Me, the world needs the bedrock support of a grounded geologist
LOL unfortunately optics don't scale.
But they could make the phone thicker.
I gotta wonder how awesome that camera is, tho. The rest of the phone got a few millimeters thinner, while the lenses on the camera got a bit fatter. Does it have a physical lens zoom instead of just digital zoom?
Phones these days use multiple cameras in new lieu of optical zoom. My phone, for example, has a 12 MP 3x telephoto camera, a 200 MP main (wide) camera, and a 12 MP 0.6x ultrawide camera.
When you zoom in, the phone gauges lighting conditions and then decide whether to use a 3x camera, or the 200 MP one then zoom in digitally to make a 12 MP photo. (Both produce great results.) You can always manually choose which camera to use, of course, and even use the full image sensor in the main lens to create massive 200 MP images.
Not sure if doing it this way is actually better than a single camera with an optical zoom lens, but phone manufacturers seem to think so. I've even achieved good results going up to 10x digital zoom with the 200 MP camera; beyond that you really start to notice the upscaling artifacts. However, 5x digital zoom looks as good as optical 3x shots to my eyes.
Half. A millimeter thinner. And then there's that ridiculous camera bump.
For scale, my Galaxy S10e is 7.9mm thick. Measuring it just now, with a screen protector and a lens protector, it's 9.5mm thick at the camera bump. And I already sometimes struggle to grip it.
Also,
- iphone air: 156 x 74 x 5.64mm
- iphone 13 mini: 131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65mm
How about bring back the best phone you ever made you cowards.
Meh, whatever, I'll just not buy a phone then. Should be the best choice for many other reasons too.
Facepalm