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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

Reasons:

  1. Mass surveillance

  2. 30% on app sales

  3. Sell all your data

  4. Remove any and all ad blockers

Etc

[-] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

the other reason that they're killing something - it's a day ending in a "y".

[-] artyom@piefed.social 72 points 4 days ago

To get more control and more money. Saved you a click.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Yeah it's a real same thing we do every night pinky vibes.

[-] Freakazoid@lemmings.world 80 points 4 days ago

Is there any partition in the E U to stop Google from implementing their developer verification system?

Like Stop Killing Games?

[-] Tzeentch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 4 days ago

Telling people to file DMA complaints may be a start, ostensibly it was passed to prevent monopolists from locking things down like this, a stick that has already been used on Apple with some success: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/contact-dma-team_en

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago
[-] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago

When will this game of endless ping pong with big tech overreaching human rights end

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago

As soon as big tech ends, no sooner.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

It's the very nature of power. I don't understand why people are still surprised by this stuff.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 12 points 4 days ago

The EU hasn't even been able to stop Apple, who's been doing this for 20 years.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

And yet the EU did force Apple to goddamn finally use USB-C in their phones. It wasn't out of their own goodwill.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

And to allow installing non-market apps. Apple wasn't happy about that in the slightest.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 11 points 4 days ago

And implemented it in the shittiest way possible

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

And got away with it, which probably assured Google that they can do something similar (though coming from the opposite direction) without upsetting the EU...

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 4 days ago

Rumor has it that sideloading will still be possible using ADB, that is the shittiest way possibile

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

These companies and their enshittification have kinda killed the broader concept of phones in my mind.

What is my phone? It's my worst computer, proprietary and closed, and which I have been actively avoiding using all year long in order to improve my mental health. It's a tool that makes it easier to exist in modern society, not something that enhances my quality of life.

So I'm not thinking about whether I need iMessage vs Android openness like I might have a decade ago. I'm sitting here wondering if I even need a phone number in the first place! But, even with some wonderful Linux phone device that's like a 6" laptop with a touch screen and LTE/5G, I guess you'd still just have a number associated with your service.

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think this is an exaggeration. Smartphones are one of the greatest inventions in human history, the problem is corporate control, the actual device is amazing.

I have a smartphone, just like there is no more need for a dedicated music player and a portable game console, I can play games and music on this as much as I want. A question popped into my head? I can look it up immediately. Love reading books? You now have effectively infinite space for them and don't need to carry them around, trying to make sure they don't get damaged. Want to watch a movie or a series? You got it. You even used to be able use it as a VR viewer! How cool is that?

If you suffered from social media addiction and just can't use the device without risking a relapse I can sympathize with that. But that's big tech's fault, nothing necessitates smartphones being that way apart from corporate desire for infinite wealth.

Most of the world will not have access to phones that put freedom first, but if you have access to them they can remind you how amazing these things actually are.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

I have actually made comments very similar to yours. Basically how phones are a technological marvel but are ruined by greed.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Google made Android to get a foothold into the market. The free and open model was only because they were up against Apple. Don’t nobody kid yourself into thinking their intent was all along anything other than being able to rake it in and have total control just like Apple. They just needed an in to get big. Now Android is huge and now they wanna slam the door and lock everyone down and start really fucking the cash out of everyone’s asses.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 21 points 4 days ago

Embrace. Expand. Extinguish.

I started using Android in 2011, IIRC, the enshittification has hit hard.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 30 points 4 days ago

Everyone is suggesting LineageOS, but my big questions are:

  • Won't ROMs/forks be affected too if this becomes mainstream? Google closed Android's source (probably exactly for this)
  • Should I just try going full Linux phone?
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago
  • Maybe - the community tends to patch out these kinds of things

  • probably not as they aren't very mature

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

This is only affecting roms that are Google approved and have Google play services installed meaning that going to a custom rom will fix this but also that any device currently supported by GPS will be affected. Therefore even old unsupported devices which are no longer receiving updates from their manufacturer will be locked down without the user's choice

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

GPS is usually decoded to global positioning system, which all phones use. Your usage of the acronym for something else is needlessly confusing. You could avoid the confusion by decoding the acronym yourself: ... Google Play services (GPS)...

[-] artyom@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago

Google "certified" is the proper terminology. But no, it will affect the entire Android ecosystem, because people won't develop FOSS apps for the <1% of users on uncertified devices.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

even old unsupported devices which are no longer receiving updates from their manufacturer will be locked down without the user’s choice

Source?

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[-] sadness_nexus@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

This kills Aurora store and other alternate play store frontends that are entirely based on spoofing your identity when you download an app. Of course, you can still install these things on Custom ROMs I assume, since those aren't going to be verified Android or whatever google is calling this bullshit, right?

[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Shi, this kills Aurora too. Didn't occur to me. My whole phone might just become unusable, if I can't get apps semi-officially or from alternate sources

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm fixing to move to either /e/OS or LineageOS. I'm leaning /e/OS, but I'm worried it's less supported than LineageOS for a newbie like myself. On a side note, I also need to go through all my Authy 2FA keys and refresh them because Authy is too locked down to work on anything but a "real" android phone. That's going to be another PITA.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 4 days ago

I am enjoying /e/ on the Fairphone.

Im very tempted to just get a small cyber-deck setup and "call" it a day ;). https://www.clockworkpi.com/shop is VERY close to what I want.

Serously, the only people that "Call" me are spam callers. Everyone SMSs or something similar. A small linux device can do the same when you think about it. The only thing I am missing is a directions app and Ill personally be fine.

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[-] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago

Google's version of android isn't the "real" one, it's the (soon to be even more) defective one.

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Next version of Android 14 Graphene OS flavored with desktop mode and Linux apps will give plenty of time to wait for my next phone.

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I hope this leads to a LOT of people moving to iOS.

If we have to pick between two overpriced Fisher Price Phones, I'll go for the one that was always against its users on the hope that there's still a chance they'll change...

Ideally, we need affordable Linux phones ASAP.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

While I do not prefer either of them to an open platform, I think the more common draw of iOS is that you know what you're getting versus the bait and switch that Google always seems to bring.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

Time stamp is about 7 minutes to 18 and a half minutes.

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