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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 30 points 4 days ago

Everyone is suggesting LineageOS, but my big questions are:

  • Won't ROMs/forks be affected too if this becomes mainstream? Google closed Android's source (probably exactly for this)
  • Should I just try going full Linux phone?
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago
  • Maybe - the community tends to patch out these kinds of things

  • probably not as they aren't very mature

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

This is only affecting roms that are Google approved and have Google play services installed meaning that going to a custom rom will fix this but also that any device currently supported by GPS will be affected. Therefore even old unsupported devices which are no longer receiving updates from their manufacturer will be locked down without the user's choice

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

GPS is usually decoded to global positioning system, which all phones use. Your usage of the acronym for something else is needlessly confusing. You could avoid the confusion by decoding the acronym yourself: ... Google Play services (GPS)...

[-] artyom@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago

Google "certified" is the proper terminology. But no, it will affect the entire Android ecosystem, because people won't develop FOSS apps for the <1% of users on uncertified devices.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Why not? How big do you think the FOSS market is now? I mean lots of them already publish on the app store which costs 25 dollars.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

even old unsupported devices which are no longer receiving updates from their manufacturer will be locked down without the user’s choice

Source?

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

The lockdown is not in android itself but in Google services so if the device is on a new enough android version (not very new like marshmallow) the lockdown will apply. If the lockdown were in android itself it would affect(effect? Idk) all roms

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Either we're having two different conversations, or I completely don't understand what you're saying.

How would GPS services affect a roms ability to sideload 3rd party apps, and 3rd party app stores?

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

They call Google Play Services "GPS", it seems. I was also a bit confused, thinking of the Global Positioning System.

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Gps ties into android at a pretty low level so it can control a lot of things

[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Maybe you re talking about GPS, they are using a bad shorthand for Google Play Services?

So is it worth investing time into something like LineageOS?

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Yes definitely especially considering it's not much time to invest at all you just install once then update like normal

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Few weeks ago google started messing with aosp. I don't really remember what they did but I think it was either delaying security patches or something to do with firmware. The point is that they can lock apks while pointing at Roms to call the privacy users, then few years later, kill Aosp and we are done

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 4 days ago

They are withholding device trees and driver binaries for Pixel phones in addition to releasing security patches when they see fit.

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