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[-] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 5 points 5 hours ago

One of my favorite quotes:

“Before you criticize a man, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way if he gets angry, you're a mile away... and you've got his shoes!"

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 39 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I think the way ozempic works should have made it pretty clear that for a lot of people, it's really not that easy. If they (the people who say that it's easy to lose weight) had any empathy or basic amounts of trust in science.

[-] stray@pawb.social 15 points 9 hours ago

We've also known for a very long time about a gene in rats which causes them to produce the same hormones as a starving rat even when eating adequate calories, causing them to overeat. Rats without this gene self-regulate their calorie intake when free-fed kibbles. They're living proof of how not every member of a species is identical in how their body handles energy intake and expenditure. If you reduce the calories these rats are able to consume, they become greatly distressed, just like how some humans do when dieting.

Twin studies also prove the heritability of BMI.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

had any empathy or basic amounts of trust in science.

Is there something like ozempic we can give people to give them empathy or trust in science? Way too many people can't do that on their own.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Yes, actually! But we don't have enough trip-sitters.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago

A good education? But as they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Critical thinking skills gained through a good education is more specifically what I would say. But better education overall is good.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh, so basically it will never get better.

[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 hours ago

I think it really sucks that not everyone has access to exercise. Some folks are injured or disabled, some are just too big, and some folks just don't have anything enjoyable around them/the means.

If people had an outlet burn 500+ extra calories a day that they really enjoyed and had the time to do, we could make a very significant dent in obesity.

All I'm saying is that fitness ought to be fun.

[-] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 37 points 11 hours ago

Exercise is a smaller part of the weight loss puzzle than people tend to think. 500+ extra calories is a lot of exercise. But it can make life better in general, because endorphins are awesome.

Weight loss starts in the kitchen. And the human body isn’t designed to lose fat. It’s designed to store it for when it can’t get any food. So it will fight you tooth and nail (or more accurately fat cell and gut bacteria) to cling to the fat.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

500+ extra calories is a lot of exercise

And it's like one cream-filled donut on the food intake side of the equation.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 11 hours ago

But it can make life better in general, because endorphins are awesome.

You're supposed to get endorphins from exercise? I must have been doing it wrong.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I think you really only get an "endorphin rush" when you're just starting with exercise and you over-exert yourself to pain levels.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 9 hours ago

I don't know what a runner's high feels like, but I do know the feeling of an asthma attack.

As a kid I was very active doing sprints and riding bikes and a bunch of other stuff. Never, ever had a positive feeling after all of that activity based on having done exercise. If the things I was doing were not enjoyable on their own, I wouldn't have done them at all.

As I get older and the aches and pains of exercise increased it has fallen away because the whole experience is fucking work. So much work with no immediate reward. I'm with you, where the hell are those endorphins?

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, there are actually exercises that I generally enjoy, like table tennis. Issue is getting to a place with table tennis, finding someone of somewhat comparable skill level who wants to be there at the same time and is fine playing with someone with very little stamina, not injuring myself.

I tried jogging for a couple of years, but it's just not fun and I never felt like I got a general happiness boost out of it.

[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 hours ago

500 calories is about 40 minutes of running for me, if it weren't for my running injury I'd be doing that about 5 days a week or like an hour bike ride on road (which is what I do now at zone 1/2). I think a lot of people are capable of working up to that, but that's totally dependent on if they like it.

I was thinking more of maintaining fitness from youth and not weight loss. And out of highschool I don't think this is like a crazy amount of exercise (one of my friends was running 100 miles a week in highschool, that's crazy).

But if people have a fun way to stay active, that they enjoy doing. I don't think obesity would be a big problem. I think encouraging a healthy lifestyle starts from childhood and I think access is a big part of that.

[-] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 7 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, that I can agree with. Maintaining is much easier than losing.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 10 hours ago

But exercise, especially strength training, helps the work you do in the kitchen by raising your BMR.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Depending on your current size, 500 calories really isn't that much if you are doing something you enjoy. OTOH, exercise often makes you feel hungrier, so if you aren't simultaneously watching that, then it doesn't help.

[-] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Paradoxically, I find exercise makes me eat less, as long as what I’m eating isn’t just sugar.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 4 points 6 hours ago

Is it odd that exercise makes me less hungry? When I work out in the morning (30-45 minutes on my elliptical machine) before breakfast, I have no particular desire to eat. If I skip breakfast, I don't really get hungry until lunchtime. On days when I don't work out and try to skip breakfast, I end up struggling to think about anything other than food all morning.

[-] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 11 hours ago

This is probably the worst part mentally about chronic joint pain for me. i want to be active, I want to lose weight, but I'm sitting here maxing out what I can physically handle just doing my everyday stuff. On a GOOD day I get about 3k steps in and I'm feeling it for days after. It's so goddamn demoralizing.

Then in my case I'm also taking care of my partner whose health has been declining and 3 autistic kids. It feels like I'm barely keeping up.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I have severe osteoarthritis in one knee and one shoulder. As of right now, I'm still able to bicycle 25-50 miles a day, but I'm terrified of eventually reaching a point where I can't do any sort of cardiovascular exercise. I know that I'm going to swell up and die in a very short time.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Gotta drop a W for you. You're doing more than most people.

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 9 points 10 hours ago

You are incredible.

You might not feel like it, but you are handling so much! I have no advice, I’m sure you know your situation best, but I’m rooting for you!

Thanks so much for the kind words. I appreciate it so much. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day.

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