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submitted 3 months ago by Sunflier@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The decision issued October 7 by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey I. Cummings extends court oversight of the agency until February 2, 2026, and warns that officers who disregard the order could face contempt or criminal referral.

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[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

unlawful actions

Uhhh... those are called crimes.

I'm sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Still are.

Sure, the ruling says they CAN be arrested for doing illegal things. But are they going to be? Cop sees ICE beating down a brown person. Is the cop going to run over and arrest them?

Or will they assist ICE?

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Depends on the city, and their leadership. Some cities have already directed their police specifically not to assist ICE. Not a huge jump from there to "treat them like a regular civilian".

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???

Police, by default, are thanks to Qualified Immunity. It takes a judge and a shit ton of evidence to waive that inherent protection. Even for situations where the officers were violating constitutional and statutory rights, and even someone with a severe mental handicap would know clearly that those actions were illegal.

[-] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago
[-] ProIsh@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago
[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[-] neatchee@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago

You realize this is the exception in the US, not the rule, right?

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, if a cop didn't have qualified immunity, then the assault and kidnapping required to effectuate an arrest would make arrests impossible. I mean, an arrest is an assault. Cops physically restran the person with handcuffs. It is a kidnapping because cops are taking taking the arrestee against their will.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The issue isn't qualified immunity in general, it's the courts unwillingness to actually enforce its disqualification when there is clear evidence, even evidence cited in other trials in some cases.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Cool. Let's start seeing some arrests of these motherfuckers.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 months ago

If the cops perform the job as is typical, they'll just yell "he's got a gun" and shoot them.

[-] BingBong@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

You know, if it's ICE on the receiving end instead of a random black guy I'm pretty happy with that improvement.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Trump is gonna be pissed if he ever understands this.

[-] Bangs42@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This needed a fucking ruling?!

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

It does, unfortunately.

"If any of you local or state law enforcement decide to grow a spine: the state courts have your back."

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Reminder: Federal judges can deputize as many citizens as they need to enforce a ruling and there are about 80k well trained, freshly fired park rangers that may want to assist with that.

[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Hell deputize every citizen (including membets of local PDs) to police ice- and effectively youve taken away their sovereign and qualified immunities.

[-] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

And started a universal basic income!

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

“no one who wears the badge of public safety should be able to abuse their power or break the law.”

Lololol

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago
[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago
[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Trump administration expected to appeal the decision.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

The day a non-right-wing judge or politician orders the arrest of a right-wing federal agent or paramilitary is the day everyone learns the left has no law enforcement power.

There is a good reason the Canadian Liberals used financial instruments when dealing with the convoy protests and didn't just order the RCMP or police to stert arresting people.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Bruh the police literally did show up in the end and it was a whole fuckin’ thing. It was livestreamed even, you can find video of it. Now, there was a problem with absolute fucking moron leading the Ottawa Police at the time but he was removed shortly afterward.

I’m not saying we gotta start trusting police, but they’ll take most any excuse to go handcuff someone and exert power. They’re kinky like that.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

Arrest ICE. They regularly use false or no plates on their vehicles - it would be a slam-dunk case, since the police can just read the plates to see if they are real. Once arrested, the masks go off and the criminal histories will be open for all to see. In this fashion, Blue States can delegitimize federal traffickers, and further prosecute the Trump Regime in the courts of public opinion and state law.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Could, but very unlikely they actually will.

Not many cops are going to go around arresting ICE agents for such things I don't imagine.

[-] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

This is likely part of why they prioritize hiding their faces and other identifying information. Watch them struggling to arrest someone and they will let go of someone just to pull their masks back up. They are breaking a lot of laws, but if a court can't identify them, they can't be charged. Secret police above the law are a key part of a dictatorship.

I doubt any police are going to risk arresting them in the field anyway. Even if they could make the arrest without it dangerously escalating, Pam Bondi would gleefully call it treason or insurrection, and bring in an army.

[-] reddifuge@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They can't breathe with those masks. They would be so happy if we removed them for them.

I’m sure the racist pigs will get right on arresting the racist pigs

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Turf wars are a thing with law enforcement agencies.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not even just agencies. I used to live in a small town whose PD was in a feud with the PD of the next town over. It was hilarious (in a sad way) how they would keep busting each other for DUI in each other's towns.

[-] BannedVoice@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago

January 6th should have served as a warning that political discourse is limited only to the current administration.

Be nice or pay the price!

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago

ICE still means Internal Combustion Engine. djt won't change that.

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