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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Guamer@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

Maybe they'll release one more, maybe, but I think that's it after that. Gears of War on Playstation was already a strong indicator, but this seals it imo.

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[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

I can't see Microsoft wasting a perfectly good order of GPU's on the xbox division when they could be put to use heating up an uninhabited warehouse.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Well hold on, the $30B of Nvidia GPUs could be running an AI service paid for by a $40B company that Nvidia has a $30B investment in...

Wait, that's too transparent, let's split that up and add a few more steps before people can catch on.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Xbox? You mean like the game pass brand?

[-] segfault11@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

xbox should make controllers for playstation

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

The Xbox has always been a vehicle for the DirectX API. That is where it gets its name. By making a console that use the API, they convinced game makers to support it exclusively boosting both the Xbox and Windows. But the time has come that DirectX is fully emulatable on other operating systems, and falling out of favor compared to other options like Vulkan. Microsoft to their credit saw the writing on the wall way back with the Xbox One, where they strongly pushed streaming and other media consumption (or they thought they could just sell DirectX licenses to the other consoles and step away from the console market quietly). It turns out for once in the company's life it was thinking too far ahead. Streaming wasn't ready, it kinda sucked to use, and it lost a lot of favor with gamers.

So now they tip their hats and they're ready to walk away, hands completely empty.

Oh yeah except for all the money they got by juicing their stock price through purchasing indie companies and then firing everyone that worked there. It wouldn't be Microsoft if they didn't destroy the entire industry as they leave.

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

They never managed to beat Sony in sales in a single generation. They had a lead briefly with the 360 in America, but by the end of the generation a PS3 was such a good value bluray player it caught back up.

Its not surprising is my point. I really hope Sony get back into the handheld market. Right now we're looking at a duopoly in console manufacturing that doesn't even need to directly compete with each other.

Where did I put my PS Vita I need to lovingly admire it

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I really hope Sony get back into the handheld market.

We definitely don't need any more locked down systems, just get one of the many PC handhelds.

I liked the Vita too, but having to buy those ridiculously expensive memory cards was some bullshit.

[-] Aradino@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

PC handhelds are way too large. I'd be hoping they stick to the small vita form factor, even though I know it'll be tablet sized

[-] regul@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

An incredible masterclass in bed-shitting.

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

This is going to be a conspiracy ass thing to say, but I have to wonder how much fed money had to do with the success of the 360, considering the CIA got caught funding CoD.

[-] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

The reason Nintendo struggled during Wii U generation is that the CIA would not fund Splatoon

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lmao mamma mia Mario is-a gonna do-a war crimes! Wahoo!

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

You have a source for the CIA funding CoD? What I remember was that the DOD had to approve the script and how the US was portrayed in exchange for the devs getting access to US military assets.

It will never not be agony-acid to me that an older CoD has a writing credit to Olliver North.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

All the console companies are going to become software companies someday.

Smartphones and tablets have taken the place of consoles as the cheaper and easier alternative to PC, where do consoles fit in?

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Segaisation

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

You'd think it's an industry they'd love to be out of, with the whole "sell at a loss and hope to make it back on games" business story.

The appeal of console hardware used to be that you could offer a tightly optimized experience with fixed hardware. The SNES outgamed a nominally higher spec 286/VGA PC because devs could use every gimmick and know it would work. But now the Xbox product matrix looks like a Taco Bell menu and console games are sprouting PC-style settings menus and inconsistent behaviour.

To preserve some brand value, I could see selling some sort of software pack or licensing system to motherboard makers-- your next PC will have an "Xbox Gold" badge on it and maybe a desktop icon or hotkey to boot into some cut-down Xbox OS.

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Smartphones and tablets are kind of ass to play games on though. Kinda sucks if that's where gaming is headed.

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, it's depressing. The 3/DS is such a good device for new types of games. The Playdate looks kinda' neat (if stupidly expensive). We If we're going to pump out generationally obsolesced e-waste it should at least be innovative e-waste that expands the medium or solves different problems.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

It's Joever for console exclusives and consoles in general. Sony puts their games on PC for free too, what's the point of having a Playstation?

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

bloodborne PC when tho

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago

I see this argument a lot and it always strikes me as odd. After all, if we keep our discussion to just games and turn the question around, what’s the point in having a big beefy gaming PC? There are very few exclusives there either.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago

Emulators, piracy, mods, etc, etc, etc, etc,

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Emulators can run fine on a phone or an old dented MacBook Air from the 2010s, you don’t need a gaming PC for that. Likewise the low-end indie games and so on. And piracy, well, you’d need to do quite a lot of piracy to break even after buying an nvidia graphics card. It almost seems hypocritical to spend so much on one thing only to avoid spending on another.

Mods, yes, they’re a bit less common or interesting than they were 15-20 years ago, and some games like Quake and Doom and so on have mods on their console versions now, but that’s largely still a PC only thing, yes.

The other unspoken reason for PC gaming is because it’s expensive. It’s the bougie high-end option where you can spend a stupid amount of money to get a higher resolution higher frame rate experience.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

The other things I like about PC gaming are openness and backwards compatibility. Only Xbox seems to take the latter at least somewhat seriously

Also I have an older budget AMD card I got off my local Craigslist equivalent, thank you very much. No, it doesn't ray trace for shit

[-] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Openness is less true than it used to be, given the dominance of closed platforms like Steam and the aims of Microsoft. We’re all extremely lucky that Microsoft is as incompetent as it is and that Steam is not particularly user-hostile. The moment Gabe dies or decides to sell Valve to private equity will be a massive crisis point for PC gaming.

Something I’ve found with backwards compatibility on PC is that sometimes you’re better off running the console version under emulation than trying to get an old Windows .exe to behave itself. Good luck if it was made for windows 9x!

And yes, of course there’s still value in old PC parts, just like there’s still a lot of value in keeping an old dusty PS4 from 2013 that can inexplicably still run a lot of new releases in 2025. Keeping old shit working is great!

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Back compat is underrated its such a solid way to play some older 360 titles while xenia flounders but the majority of gamer-gulag dont really give a shit about old games. I got one almost exclusively to play The Darkness

There was an opportunity to open up the app store to a lot more software which was the only thing that could have been unique. Maybe having more relaxed mod support but no.

It ended up being a gamepass machine basically which lost them money on sales anyway lol

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