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Sounds like they could easily solve this problem by making Hakeem Jeffries speaker.
Honestly, it could be a real power move for some blue state republicans to flip parties. If they could pull a Reagan and say that the Republican Party has changed but they haven’t, they could take both the democratic voters and centrist republicans while losing the MAGAs, and still carry their district.
That would be something for the history books.
I doubt they would be trusted at this point. Too many burnt bridges in the MAGA lifetime. They are on life support.
They don't even have to flip outright to Democrats, they could simply announce they are now Independent. They are probably getting a Primary challenger regardless, and maybe Democrats pay back the favor by forgetting to run a candidate in that district.
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I think you mean HAAAKEEEEM JEEFFFRIEEES
I hadn't heard that. That's fantastic. It reminds me of Barack Obama's announcement in his Epic Rap Battle of History
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Even tactically it would be the smart move for the Republicans.
If nothing gets done, they can blame the Democratic speaker, if things get passed the wingnuts don't like, they can blame it on the Democratic speaker, meanwhile, the republicans from the slightly more swingy states get creds with more moderate voters, when they vote sensibly.
But nooo, Republicans can only stand either having it all or blocking it all.
Even tactically it would be the smart move for the Republicans.
Republicans have painted themselves into a corner on this issue by refusing to reject the fascism that has taken over the GOP. Fascism requires "others" to blame. You see it over and over. "This is all the fault of foreigners from X." "This is because of Y minority group." And of course, one of the "others" is always whatever the rival political party is. In this case, the Democrats.
For a fascist, it's unthinkable to work with one of the "others". It would be like Hitler partnering with Jewish people.
Republicans are already blaming Democrats bizarrely for not voting for McCarthy, at a time when McCarthy and all of the Republicans were blaming Democrats for everything, and vowing never to work with them again.
What we really need is a small group of Republicans to say the situation plainly. "The GOP is letting fascists take over and is becoming unamerican. I will not be able to support GOP leadership until they publicly reject fascism and eject extremists like Trump, Gaetz, and Greene from the party. I will still vote for my constituency's conservative values, but I cannot let fascists control American politics, and so for House leadership, I am forced to vote for my conscience and support Hakeem Jeffries."
Some Republican House member requested two things from Jim Jordan:
- Ukrainian Aid
- A public statement saying that Trump lost the 2020 election.
Jim Jordan responded by doxing him and letting the far-right MAGA Twitter hatemob harass him over this weekend. And Jim Jordan still wonders why this guy hasn't flipped over to support him... Mind you: the other Republicans are more than happy to chastise the "defectors" and try to apply more pressure on them.
I don't know what needs to happen for people to realize that this won't work. But the political winds are very far against what you think they are right now. A giant speaker battle and public embarrassment over the new state of the Republican Party might be one of the better things to happen for this to blow over.
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What we really need is a small group of Republicans to say the situation plainly.
We had that already. They were all voted out of office or had to not rerun because they wouldn't get voted back.
What we really need is a small group of Republicans to say the situation plainly. “The GOP is letting fascists take over and is becoming unamerican.
This is literally why Romney is quitting the senate after this term[0]. It’s a long, but pretty sad read. The problem is these articles get no traction so people don’t see it. And then maga keeps getting more powerful
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Good points, but any Republican who votes for a Democrat would see the entirety of the MAGA base vote against them. Hell, McCarthy got ousted for just negotiating with Democrats to avoid a shutdown. None of them are going to vote for Jeffries.
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In my opinion there's no chance of that happening. The next speaker will definitely be a republican.
I'm just saying, it's an easy solution. Only takes a few Republican votes.
McCarthy was kicked out for working with Democrats to prevent the government shutdown.
You're grossly underestimating the RINO / propaganda that causes Republicans to knife each other in the back and demand loyalty.
Surely their long term best interests is to kick the MAGA caucus out of the party, but I guess we're just driving full steam into fascism instesd
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It is pretty cool though to see more Republicans stand up to Jim Jordan though, especially when that news came out about the threatening text messages some Republican Rep's wives got about their spouses vote. I would love to see more Republicans break off and pick somebody else other than Jordan. He is the absolute fucking worst and he's a maga Republican 100%. I mean if you're looking for somebody who looks strong to Republicans, Jim Jordan is not the choice. He looks like a whiny, sniveling bitch.
But sadly, I absolutely expect them all to fall in line behind Jordan after several pointless rounds of votes. Because they're all cowards.
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Jordan's loss is also a historic first
Jordan’s 199 votes mark the first time since 1923 that the majority nominee got less than 200 votes.
- Ha ha
Important points:
- Yesterday, Jordan received 200 of the necessary 217 votes.
- Today, Jordan received 199 of the necessary 217 votes.
- Some of the people who didn't vote for Jordan yesterday voted for him today; some of the people who voted for Jordan yesterday didn't vote for him today.
- Ha ha
That last point is the most important
Some of the people who didn't vote for Jordan yesterday voted for him today; some of the people who voted for Jordan yesterday didn't vote for him today.
That's amazing.
I have to say. I never understood why the grandmother in "Mars Attacks" laughed so hard when they "Blew up Congress".
Now I do.
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Traitor, pervert, sex offender
Enough about Trump.
You're going to have to be more specific. That sadly doesn't narrow it down much.
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Eat shit, Gym Jordan!
What a silly clown show. I sure hope the Democrats can retake the House; the cons are not fit to lead a popsicle stand.
I am hopeful that this will hasten the breakaway of the far right from the republican party into a completely new 3rd party. It seems like this would only help dems.
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At this point the only way out of this is for independents to not vote for Republicans but vote for Democrats instead.
At the moment there are no independent representatives in the House. We have two vacancies, but it's one Democrat and one Republican.
If you mean in the long run, at the next election, sure; but we can't wait that long for this mess to be sorted out.
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Thank you, Rep. Gaetz, for the opportunity to see the GOP in a lose-lose situation.
The circus continues 🤡
Kek. The US Republican can't stop shooting itself in the foot, even as its Israeli ally is crying for help. If I am Netanyahu, I'll get new allies.
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It's absurd that we require a majority vote for house speaker. It should be as simple as whoever gets the most votes. Or you have to vote for A or B for your vote to even be counted. None of this "present" nonsense.
212 vs 199, ok Hakeem Jeffries wins.
Most likely, this would make the Republicans vote for whoever their candidate is, rather than a minority Democrat winner.
Not saying I disagree with you per se. I had the same thought when reading this news.
The current system was probably designed to promote compromise, even across party lines. But we all know how well that's working out these days.
Plurality voting is one of the best systems if your goal is to elect someone that most people don't want.
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Gymbo is a winner in the meme game. His pissed off face in the first loss will be used for a meme template for the next decade.
What a piss baby. Just like Greg Abbott
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That Trump endorsement sure is powerful.
What a fucking pedofilic treasonous loser.
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