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Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.

Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

So she was bragging to Fox on her and her co-collaborators conservative bonafides.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Democrats as a party do have an issue with Republicans infiltrating..

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The possibility of infiltrators is meaningless when the Democrats are themselves a pro-capitalist neoliberal party. Their fundamental class interests do not allow them to make reform that is beneficial to the working class. This is why whenever the Dems are in power they either outright refuse to do anything meaningful, or the reforms they do pass are so convoluted and means-tested-to-hell that they end up making things worse in some way.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Wrong way to look at it.

Democrats and republicans share the same donors. They may individually have different goals in mind, but their donors appeal to both sides to preserve a guaranteed outcome and to preserve the image of choice and opposition.

Really though what we have is anyone who wants to make a fast dime and has the gift of gab throwing themselves into the ring to try to get some of that sweet, sweet donor bribery.

The voters handed the dems huge gains during the shutdown election, there's no clearer way they could have signaled we were behind them, and yet they betray us.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It seems to me that this might have been a strategic move to get the best result out of the midterms. The Republicans have shown their true colors. Trump throwing lavish parties while conducting a legal battle in the supreme court to ensure that millions of Americans are denied the food aid that was specifically put aside for that purpose, is about as much political capital as you could hope to gain from this. But why is it so important to Trump, to see Americans starve? I believe the reason is that starvation is what you need to instigate a violent insurrection, and that's Trump's plan for staying in power indefinitely. He will declare a state of emergency, martial law, suspend the midterms until the present crisis is dealt with, etc. The Dems caving in denies him the chance to do this, while still showing the maga party for the evil bastards they are. And maybe we get to see the Epstein files now? I could be giving establishment Dems more benefit of the doubt than they deserve, but that's how it looks to me.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Im not convinced. Trump has demonstrated time and time again he doesnt need to institute martial law to remain in power. All branches of goverment have capitulated to him and effectively given him the power of a king. I keep seeing "Trump wants violence so he can stay in power" and it really reads as "if you dont want fascism, make sure you roll over when confronted with it"

[-] atmorous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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If you are a voter who wants real change put in progressives, or indpendents that actually lean left in World politics

Run For Something trains progressive candidates to run and win. Couple days ago they won big for various elections when we had that very good day

They also have on Substack: RFS Feel Good which gives weekly updates about everything they have accomplished in & out of office

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[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

*European politics NOT "world politics".

Not everyone is following the same trends and left/right are relative to the society in question.

We must always be extremely careful spreading Eurocentric notions as being "the world's view" as the history of that type of thinking is extremely ugly.

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[-] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

I wish Run for Something was doing anything in my area. Only person they got is on the other side of the state. Not even anything for the nearby major city.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If there's nobody in your area doing anything politically exciting, it's not Run for Something's fault. Individuals from all over the country choose to sign up with RfS. They're not a touring group going around recruiting from some major cities, but not others.

Perhaps you need to spread the word about RfS locally? I mean if you really want local change, it can totally start with you.

[-] atmorous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Which state? Also join other state ones, & up with other cities/towns in your state. That way you can help ech other, & they can teach you how to get others active in your area along with nearby major city to get things done. Then expand to the state

Have hope, & take action at least a couple hours a day it'll be very worth. I believe in all of us

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Schumer has zero control over his party when even the party whip pledges to defect. But he apparently refused to vote for the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor, so this is entirely expected and precedented.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Democrats need to do more than just get rid of Schumer..

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

A bit of a "how do you eat an elephant" going on here.

[-] SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 month ago

How is the soggy assed even in his position. GET HIM THE FUCK OUT! He’s destroying the party and just a wet used fucking cum sock of a politician, no back bone. Gtfo, too much power for someone who can’t wield it at all because of their weakness. It’s sad. 😞

[-] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This is actually pretty consistent with the party.

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

they should all be kicked out of the party.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

WTF is the Democratic Party's long term strategy?

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The DNC's strategy is for Trump to run as a Democrat in 2028.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

The Democratic Party is a big tent party. There isn't often a plan, because the party membership has many different opinions on every subject.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

At best this is a massive gamble with the absolute last of the dregs of goodwill anyone left of center has for th democratic party. I'm predicting a lot of frustration -signalling throwing of hands in the air and performative filibusters in Shumer's future, and not much else.

New York Democrats: primary this piece of shit and get him out of the Senate. I don't care if his gamble pays off, he shouldn't be gambling with the future of our country against convicted fraudsters.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I wrote both of my Dem senators asking them, begging them, to hold elections on leadership. I've written Schumer's office several times, begging him to step down and get the hell out of the way. I know it doesn't do much (especially Schumer, as I'm not a constituent), if anything, but other than my vote, I have no leverage.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Why the fuck are democrats talking to the Traitor News Network?

[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

This is just standard Democrat strategy.

Their job - the service their rich donors pay them for - is to provide the illusion of opposition to the steady expansion of the wealth and privilege of those same rich donors.

So they posture in order to appear to be opposition, but then they inevitably cave, one way or another, whatever it takes.

There was never any question that the Dems were going to cave - that's what they always do. The only questions were specifically how and when they were going to do it

And now we know.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Of course. Why else would it be dems not going for reelection. Just like republicans growing a spine and criticizing trump after they’ve resigned, the dems letting others vote for something unpopular and then resign so it’s “not the dem’s fault.”

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

So Chuck Schumer knew this would Happy and Therefore PURPOSELY let People get Kicked off SNAP during the Holidays? GREAT! THAT"S my Type of Leader!

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Why are any dems appearing on Fox “News”?

[-] snowby@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Why are any dems appearing on Fox “News”?

To reach their target audience.

[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I think it's good that some do. I especially love Pete Buttigieg's efforts on fox. For all those millions of chronic fox viewers, it's the only way they'll ever hear a rational perspective on any issues, and it might just be enough to get some of them to start thinking again.

[-] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

They want to appeal to the Republicans' Never Trump demographic again.

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[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

So which party is still fucking me over harder? Oh yeah, as always, Republicans. So I'm going to continue to vote against them

[-] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

The Republicans are the shady people who pull you into a dark alley and fuck you.

The Democrats are the people who see the Republicans fucking you in a dark alley, look concerned, and say they'll "call for help in a few minutes".

[-] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Voting for the gentler rapist isn't the flex you think it is.

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