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Surprise EU rollback of 'GDPR' digital-rights rules prompts alarm (euobserver.com)
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“If adopted, these amendments would not simplify compliance but hollow out the GDPR’s and ePrivacy’s core guarantees: purpose limitation, accountability, and independent oversight,” Itxaso Dominguez de Olazabal, from the European Digital Rights group, told EUobserver.

The draft includes adjustments to what is considered “personal data,” a key component of the GDPR and protected by Article 8 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks like somebody has been promised by one or more large Tech firms a very highly paid non-executive board membership, millionaire speech circuit engagement or gold plated "consulting" gig when their time in the Commission is over...

Mind you, by now that kind of exchange of "favours" is tradition for the members of the EU Commission.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Humanity really can't progress anywhere with capitalism running so rampant. Every corpo needs to go, or it will be like trying to sail against the wind.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago

You’re right. We are past capitalism at this point imo, though. They don’t need employees at all to extract “value” from the rest of us. They are like digital kings. We pay them to be on their lands. You should see the amount of money they extract from some of us just to be allowed to play. I pay them more than all of my bills combined to be allowed eyes in their digital fiefdom.

Do it or starve. That is the reality for a lot of us. Maybe not you, yet. (If you’re lucky enough to have a job that doesn’t need the internet)

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

True.

That is however a pretty hard and time consuming change, so to me it makes sense that in the meanwhile we take steps to reduce the harm caused by the system still in place, not least by cracking down hard on Corruption and Conflicts Of Interest and closing the legal loopholes that allow certain politicians to stay within the Law whilst purposefully using today the power they have been delegated to do favors for others who have promised them monetary payback for it tomorrow.

If you're drowning now you don't put all your hopes on the ship that might be coming but isn't even visible yet.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The commission pitched the Digital Omnibus as simplifying and streamlining digital regulations to relieve the regulatory burden for digital services and AI systems, with a specific focus on helping small-to medium-sized businesses in Europe; however, the draft proposal goes further than expected.

won’t somebody think of the poor “AI” companies? 😢

[-] nope@jlai.lu 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well shit, do we EU citizens have any say in this ?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I believe the EU Parliament has to approve this so they can block it, and that's elected by Proportional Vote and we all have MEPs there who, unlike national parliamentarians in countries without Proportional Vote (which are most of them) have to worry more about the public opinion in their nation turning against them.

So if this shit ever makes its way to the EU Parliament (were the EU Commission will try to make it pass quietly), contact your country's MEPs and show you're well aware of it.

[-] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

Contact your local MEP. Ask your local MP or Deputy or whatever you call them to push the relevant minister to oppose it. It's not great, but you do have a say.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

Have we ever?

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes. It worked with Chat Control (even though it wouldnt have passed anyway. Didnt even go to voting.)

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

It didn't go to voting because it wouldn't have passed, and it wouldn't have passed because of public backlash causing important countries for the vote to back out.

Your comment makes it sound as if it wouldn't have passed without public backlash

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Every goddamn day there's some new BS showing up.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

Fascists in council. Only one way to deal with those...

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

What about this is fascism?

[-] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Such a shame. 😕

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I want to know who is behind these changes being proposed. This smells of corruption.

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Compliance does need to be considered. The company I work for is trying extremely hard to comply, but because of complexities and ambiguities in the law, it is difficult to find out how to comply. I don't know all the details, but I know legal, compliance, and the data engineering teams spend a lot of time figuring out how to be compliant and there aren't always clear answers.

That said, the solution is not to roll back protections but to be very explicit about how to comply.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

I guess Daddy Trump gets his wish afterall. Spineless cowards ...

[-] Inkstainthebat@pawb.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Omfg, is there anything that we can do?

[-] m33@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Vote wisely.

…

No no just kidding whatever your vote is it doesn’t matter in the end

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

This message brought to you by anti-democracy coalition. "Anti-democracy coalition - whatever you do just please don't participate in democracy"

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Whilst I do not agree with the spirit of the message of the previous poster, I must point out that specifically the EU Comission - from were this came - is not elected but nominated, and the nomination is one big horse trading shit show several levels removed from voters, were everybody but the head of it is chosen by the Council Of Ministers (which only represents EU National Governments , not National Parliaments) so the whole thing is maybe slightly more "democratic" than nominations for the Chinese Politburo.

(If there is one thing that needs changing in the EU political structures, it's the crooked, rotten shit show that's the EU Commission).

That said, the EU Parliament which can stop most of this shit, is elected and it's even via Proportional Vote so there is no mathematical rigging at all to make some votes count more than others (unlike in First Past The Post Power Duopoly countries like the US or Britain) and hence voting in the EU Election does matter.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

As much as all of us may hate it - it's true. The only scenario in which democracy functions is one where all, or at the very least the majority of voters make their own decisions, based on objective information. This is not the case.

While it's always great to contribute, no matter how little, we cannot deny reality here. Your vote is welcome and appreciated, but the truth is it won't change anything. Voting only gets you so far when the vast majority of people are brainwashed and just pick whatever their media outlet of 'choice' tells them to pick.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

This bullshit needs to stop. Grow the fuck up

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, just keep voting, it will work this time, I swear!

Or take a page from the yellow vests, make them piss themelves.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, not voting works super great to keep the fascists out of power, just ask the Americans!

One without the other is never enough

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io -2 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't seem terribly surprising to me, the existing rules make it very hard to make use of data for AI training in the EU. Other parts of the world have looser restrictions and they're developing AI like gangbusters as a result. The EU needed to either loosen up too or accept this entire sector of information tech being foreign-controlled, which would have its own major privacy and security problems.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

"Massive trillion dollar corporations are behaving absolutely fucking atrociously, so we need to do the same" is such an awful take that it makes me doubt the legitimacy of this user account.

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You're not going to beat the Americans at their own game. It's a society that does not respect the rule of law, does not believe in true market competition and does not believe in democracy.

If you think I am acting out, consider the following point: recently Meta was found to have directly (in a premeditated manner) promoted scams/frauds that netted them $16B in commission in a single year. We all know that nothing will be done about this even under a hypothetical centre-right US government.

How do we know that? Well was anything done about Microsoft's anti-competitive behaviour in the 90s?

But for me, the real irony is the polemics about competition and "free market". In a real free market, MS, Meta, Google would not have hundreds of billions of dollar to burn because competition would drive profit margins to a state of approaching zero. Zuck would not be able to burn $45 B on his weird and disgusting Metaverse Mii autosexuality fetish.

Not a fan of the leadership of China, but I genuinely do believe that one area that we can learn from them is how to deal with oligarchs.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

How do we deal with oligarchs including Xi?

[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Xi is not an oligarch, to my knowledge, he has always worked in the CCP.

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

As if the GDPR was a barrier to IP theft

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 3 weeks ago

Did you read the article? It says that making AI training easier is a key purpose of these changes.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why should any of us approve of making things easier for technofascists?

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