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submitted 1 year ago by Fitik@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

I am working on Russian translation of Kbin right now and I noticeed that many of Kbin terminology just sounds.. Like a bad translation (Maybe from Polish it was originally written on?..), and I am sure many of you can agree with me
So there are some of my suggestions of better names for things to make them more intuitive, espicially for new people and normies:

Magazine - Community
Link - Article
Thread - Post
Post(In microblog) - Blog
Commented - Discussed
Badges - Labels

If you have more suggestions write them in comments, I think kbin can be confusing as it is, and the wierd language makes it even more confusing for everyone

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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

I don't see how "thread" doesn't make sense. That's how it was in forums as well. I also think "article" is way worse than "link", because not every link is an article.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Magazine

The dictionary says:

A periodical containing a collection of articles, stories, pictures, or other features.

I think it fits the literal definition of magazine, here on kbin a magazine is a collection of articles, stories, pictures or other features

Link

When you create a link you literally paste a link on the form that redirects to the article in another website

Thread - Post

A thread is a new topic. With your question you opened a new thread.

A post a single entry in a thread. Your question was the first post of your new thread, my comment is the second post in your thread.

Comment: to make a statement of one's opinion

Discuss: to talk about (an issue) usually from various points of view and for the purpose of arriving at a decision or opinion

Most people participate to make a comment and that's all

Badges - Labels
I think badges don't work? So who cares?

They don't sound like broken English at all, they are very literal and self explanatory. Maybe you are bad at English?

[-] ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Changing magazine to community is fine (though I don't really mind magazine).

I think thread should stay as is. Feels much more distinct than post, which could more easily refer to both threads & microblogs.

Link should stay. Makes it very clear what it does.

Post should definitely be changed, but I don't get why it can't just be microblog instead of blog. Makes it immediately clear what it's for since there's a microblogs tab in the header.

Commented is fine. Again, much more clear about what it means.

Badges don't really do anything yet tmk, so I'd hold off on renaming them.

[-] mack123@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Magazine makes sense as a differentiation from lemmy's community. The concept is different so a different word is needed. Thread feels like a throwback to reddit, but it makes sense in the threadverse concept.

I agree on blog though. There post feels cumbersome. Badges could probably use a rewording, but tag makes more sense to me there as an accepted word.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

"bin" would make sense and is also a little funny.

[-] derin@lemmy.beru.co 3 points 1 year ago

What is conceptually different about a kbin magazine to a lemmy community?

[-] mack123@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

As far I know the grouping of the hashtags with the articles and links, in one container is specific to kbin. I like the concept. I may be wrong though. I have not spent much time on Lemmy.

[-] Kotking@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@derin @mack123
here little observation https://kbin.social/m/arknights/p/911556 there is some differences...

[-] Fitik@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I agree that tags makes more sense, but this word is used already
Perhaps it would be a better idea to replace Tags to Hashtags and Badges to Tags ?

[-] Ori@sacredori.net 8 points 1 year ago

Some of these things are being discussed at the Codeberg. There's some issues opened like #406 - Rename "Microblog" in header to "Posts" for consistency., or other ones requesting feedback like #680 - Rename 'posts' to 'microposts' everywhere. Truly, the best place to put these ideas or thoughts is on the Codeberg. That's where the action is - but it never hurts to discuss here too, just may not be passed along.

[-] fearout@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with changing magazine to community, but mostly for the sake of consistency across the fediverse. Changing posts to microposts or something similar will add some clarity, so it might be a good idea as well.

But the rest seems fine to me as is tbh.

[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

/kbin plans to eventually support every content type from federated software, and because of this, we cannot actually reserve the name
post to only one type of it. Still, microblog posts/toots/tweets need to be renamed and I prefer to call them Notes. This is already used in ActivityStream dictionary, and in Misskey and ~~Calckey~~ Firefish.

[-] RMiddleton@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I dislike Notes because it is used in so many other ways also. Notes in other contexts are very often private. Post, Blog, and Microblog are all clearly shared. (I realize some might wonder, "How could anyone think that creating a new item called Note is private?!" I simply offer the feedback that the term Notes is used elsewhere to connote notes to oneself, and would prefer not to add any potential confusion.)

[-] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

And I have realised right now, than Article has been renamed to Thread here. Somewhat unfortunable, because IMO any Reddit-like posts (Including Link and Photo [unless moved somewhere else]) should be called like that, not only articles.

[-] shepherd@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Magazine ->Community

Strong agreement.


Link -> Article

Maybe Link -> Website even, 'cause it's not always an actual news article.


Thread -> Post

Agree, mainly because I think most of us would say "I'm going to post this on kbin" but I haven't found a verb I like for ...starting? a new 'thread' lol. "I'm going to thread this on kbin"??

And also for branding issues lol, vs that big company.


Post (In microblog) -> Blog

Room for improvement here, but good start I think.


Commented -> Discussed

I think Comments is fine. Discussion is fine. I actually think this is where "threads" could have been used lol, but let's not.


Badges -> Labels
Labels is good. Badges isn't quite right. Stamp? Banner? Flag?

[-] squawkduck@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@shepherd @Fitik

Maybe Link -> Website even, 'cause it's not always an actual news article.

In which case, "Link" will be just fine, since it's a link to a website or article.

[-] shepherd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, yeah. I do slightly prefer 'website' but I'm having trouble disagreeing with you here lmao. I'm willing to leave 'link' alone, if we make the other ones less ambiguous!

[-] Fitik@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Actually it's a very good idea about the article/website I'll edit the post
And my commented I mean a button on hot/newest/active/commented where it shows threads (posts) with most comments(I think)

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think what's meant by a website is actually a webpage.

[-] euphoria@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

i understand why people wanna go from magazine to community or maybe even subbin? but thats gonna suuuuck for mags with mag in their name like @MagHub D:

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