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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml to c/reddit@lemmy.world

Edit: We've lost to South Africa. Please help with overwriting this r/ to c/ instead!

Top left corner of the green rectangle: (85, 228)
Template: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChaoticNeutralCzech/myRandomImages/main/placeLemmyTemplate.json

The previous one by The Black Company was too wide to defend against Italy. Let's make this one! I know LEMMY.ML is not the full Lemmyverse but we don't have space for JOIN-LEMMY.ORG now.

To use its template, install the r/place userscript (guide) and go to https://new.reddit.com/r/place/?jsontemplate=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2FChaoticNeutralCzech%2FmyRandomImages%2Fmain%2FplaceLemmyTemplate.json&screenmode=fullscreen
or if you already have it, import one of these (either the URLencoded one in URL, or the raw one in plugin settings)

https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2FChaoticNeutralCzech%2FmyRandomImages%2Fmain%2FplaceLemmyTemplate.json
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ChaoticNeutralCzech/myRandomImages/main/placeLemmyTemplate.json
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[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

I would heavily recommend linking to join-lemmy.org instead of lemmy.ml.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I know, it's better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the "shortest" Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

[-] lenninscjay@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago
[-] PopularUsername@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

It's poor branding, at least if someone knows Lemmy and they see a Lemmy link, they will go to it. Lemm.ee doesn't intuitively look like a Lemmy instance to an outsider.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

lemmy.ml is even poorer branding, because the majority of newcomers who would attempt to join it will be turned down. At least on lemm.ee they would actually be able to create an account.

[-] professor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'd maybe just say "Lemmy is a better Reddit" in that case.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Person: Searches "Lemmy"
Le Google: Lemmy Kilmister Mötorhead

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

or *goes to Lemmy.org* (which is what many are still trying to build)
...that domain is for sale for €6666 lol

[-] Machefi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[-] h34d@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

1234 people have already viewed this offer

sounds legit

[-] stevecrox@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

If your goal is to advertise the fediverse You should have used 'kbin'.

People can go directly to "lemmy.ml" but the site might disappear due to Mali re-establishing ownership of .ml domains, also its run by a tankie which will upset some people.

"Lemmy" provides 10 google sponsored results and then 'join-lemmy', the join-lemmy website has you 'join a server' and then presents you lots of options.

During the first Mastodon surge one of their issues is people felt overwhelmed by the options and it hurt Mastodon adoption, so a single website does make a lot of sense. Personally I would suggest lemmy.world its a general instance and the admins aren't linked to any extremist views, but you said that would be too long.

If you put 'kbin' into search the top result is kbin.social, that makes it seems like a reddit alternate. It keeps user choice limited and brings them into the fediverse. That means people aren't confronted with the complexity of the fediverse immediately and can learn and understand it at their own pace.

So if your goal is to advertise the fediverse I would push kbin, if your goal is to specifically get people to use a Lemmy based website I don't think you have a good option

[-] spacedancer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

The only thing with kbin is the lack of a mobile app. A lot of newer reddit users don’t even know there’s a website. It might be hard to convince those users to switch to kbin if it doesn’t have a mobile app.

[-] stevecrox@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Maybe I am old but I don't understand the NEED for a mobile application.

The kbin website works well on desktop and mobile web browsers with no render issues. The lemmy mobile apps all seem to be "alpha" quality.

Why is a buggy app better thana working website?

I choose an application or website based on which one works best. For example I browse Amazon via the web browser on the phone since the mobile application takes 2-5 seconds to load.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Personally I would suggest lemmy.world

Please god no! A majority of the Lemmy population is already on that server. It's presence on SEO and everybody's insistence to use that server is already a problem with trying to push a federated model. The owner's vain goal of trying to maintain the largest Lemmy server isn't helping matters.

We're already in a position where, if lemmy.world went down, the Lemmy federation would be in a crippled state.

[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Lemmy.world is by far the best experience for a new user. You can convince people to move to a new instance once they're already on lemmy.world. Starting off in a random instance is much more confusing.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Midwest.social is friggin fantastic.

(I would have said "fuckin", but we're "Midwest nice" and don't want to offend people.)

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Except for the problem that lemmy.world often runs sluggishly on account of the overload.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

But, people won't just move off of their instance for no reason. The general public is too stuck on the idea that Lemmy is one domain and that your account is important to keep.

[-] JshKlsn@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't.

That website is confusing to the average user and makes no sense. Linking directly to an instance, doesn't matter which, gives them a familiar UI to Reddit, and allows them to click "sign up" without issue. From there they can learn about instances and join a different one.

join-lemmy.org is confusing, and makes it seem like it's some software you download to the average user.

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

It is the wrong instance to link to then, because lemmy.ml has severely limited who are allowed to join it. That would just leave much more confusion and antagonism towards the concept of lemmy than the join lemmy page.

Yeah didn’t Mali re-asserting ownership of the .ml TLD create a bunch of chaos literally within the last couple days?

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can thank Meta for that. They sued the registrar managing several ccTLDs, including .ml, .ga, .gq, .cf, and .tk. Meta even goes so far to fabricate a conspiracy theory about the registrar being part of a cybercriminal ring; they feign concern and wreak havoc.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Noooo not .ml D:
That is awful; lemmy.world would be fine or join-lemmy.org or lemm.ee, but not lemmy.ml

[-] clay830ee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

LEMM.EE is actually fewest pixels

[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

and the coolest instance, with the coolest people on it

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Of course it links to the domain that's probably about to die in short order. This is why open source can't have nice things.

[-] professor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Spend money on server and bandwidth? Yes.

Spend $9 on a reputable domain name rather than a domain name you technically “rent” from an unscrupulous registrar that eventually takes back domains and redirects them to adult websites? Thus leading to them getting sued by Facebook and bringing enough attention to Mail for them to take back the domains? Nah.

[-] megsmagik@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

As an Italian I’m sorry, Lemmy is more important than our flag

[-] Shialac@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[-] wieli99@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Isn't lemmy.ml down due to .ml?

[-] bigdangle@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 2 years ago

There's an ongoing fiasco with the Mali government reclaiming all .ml websites. Fmhy lemmy is already gone as they used a .ml. You may want to link to the org instead, just in case

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I know, it's better for decentralization to link to the directory. The Black Company tried but they were overrun by Italy. LEMMY.ML is the "shortest" Lemmy link and we cannot fit anything more unless the canvas expands or the very loose Fuck Spez Coalition lends us more space.

[-] 100thCatMarch@kbin.cafe 0 points 2 years ago

Might I suggest lemm.ee? It's pretty short and doesn't have any issues with the Mali government.

[-] Interesting_Test_814@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago

I came here to suggest that. Already suggested it in the black company discord and the place join lemmy matrix, seems like the idea is picking up on the place join lemmy matrix

[-] Kangy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Stupid question incoming.. what is this lemmy matrix you speak of?

[-] Interesting_Test_814@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago

matrix.to/#/#lemmyplace:data.haus - matrix chat for coordination for lemmy on r/place

[-] Kangy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks! Never heard of matrix before so will give it a gander!

[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Use lemm.ee or Lemmy.world.

[-] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Lemmy world already has a lot of users

we should now encourage users to use different instances

because that's the point of using a federated platform

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

LEHHY.HL is the best of them all.

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Mr LEHHY is this you talking or the liquor?

[-] null@zerobytes.monster 0 points 2 years ago
[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

It is also filled with tankies.

[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

A tankie is a communist or Marxist-Leninist.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I lean socialist, but frankly can’t get onboard with classic communism.

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[-] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Congrats, you went on reddit and contributed to place just as spez wants.

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[-] xmanmonk@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago

Was gonna upvote, but it's at 666 and I didn't want to change that.

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