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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 months ago

They are disabling it because the license cost went up 4 cents? Just pass that cost onto the customer. Even if they mark that up several times, I would rather pay that than have my battery drained because I have to software decode a video.

There is still a lot of H.265 content out there. I have many terabytes of it that I don't want to transcode.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"license cost" is a stupid problem to have in the first place. adopt a foss standard, why won't this get through to these thick skulled morons.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Well, hevc already is a standard. It’s too late now. AV1 will need some time until it’s widely adopted.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

synology also did this recently. shit should be illegal.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

that was the final straw for me to switch NAS vendors when I next upgrade.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

What should be illegal is patents like this!

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

From the article:

Last year, NAS company Synology announced that it was ending support for HEVC, as well as H.264/AVC and VCI, transcoding on its DiskStation Manager and BeeStation OS platforms, saying that “support for video codecs is widespread on end devices, such as smartphones, tablets, computers, and smart TVs.”

Well, not anymore lol.

[-] OmegaSunkey@ani.social 15 points 2 months ago
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[-] sepi@piefed.social 14 points 2 months ago

Here's two brands I've not touched in decades. Keeping it that way.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

What have you touched recently? Asking, because my Lenovo V14 thing is fine inside, but everything mechanical is crumbling in my hands.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 10 points 2 months ago

increasing from $0.20 each to $0.24 each in the United States. To put that into perspective, in Q3 2025, HP sold 15,002,000 laptops and desktops

“This is pretty ridiculous, given these systems are $800+ a machine

I wonder how long the list of these fees for one machine is

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's about a $600,000 savings for that quarter, for a company that reported $13.9 billion in revenue for Q3 2025.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It would be cruel of us to ask them to only have $13,899,400,000 in revenue that quarter instead of $13,900,000,000

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Someone was a doing a lot of hard work subtracting big scary numbers in their budget sheet.

[-] tangeli@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

Is it disabled in hardware, firmware or software? Does Linux enable it?

[-] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Reading through a bit it sounds like it works on Linux, not on Windows. Folks are hypothesizing it’s disabled at the ACPI level because different drivers don’t help.

[-] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Imagine buying a "Pro" laptop that can't even play HEVC videos without software transcoding. This is insane penny pinching and infuriating

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

i use x265 for EVERYTHING. i had no clue about this.

fuck.

webm? lol

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

webm is a container, not a codec

Even if you hit that blocker, you can still software-decode with [alternative] software.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

does dell/hp have to pay annual license fees in perpetuity for systems they sell????

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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Let me get this straight - people buy a product advertised as having a feature, containing a part also advertised as having that feature, and then they disable it after purchase?

How is that legal?

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Americans have no consumer protections.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Why would they when capitalists are more important than the consumers.

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[-] ftbd@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

How is this done? Can you just re-enable the feature in the BIOS? And what about machines sold outside the US?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't for a second believe this is about the rising cost. It raised by $0.04. Someone below said that works out to a savings of $600,000.

Alright, but for an individual, it's $0.04.

Just increase the final price by $0.25. You made back your $600,000. Plus whatever $0.21 would equate to as GAINS.

Fuck guys. You suck at business. This is what happens when companies replace their CEO with AI.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The HP 16" EliteBook 665 G11 Notebook costs $1500. That means this $600k "cost cutting" measure starts to decrease revenue if only 400 people buy a laptop from a different brand.

Or even a single person. Someone tasked to purchase 400 laptops for a company, reads this news and decides to get ThinkPads instead...

Sell the CEO private jet if they really need the money

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The real key is buried in the middle, where they say hardware decode capabilities are going to be restricted to models with discrete GPUs... Meaning they can make a $500 upsell mandatory for the most basic of capabilities.

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Yes this is absolutely ridiculous.

This is also a good reason to avoid proprietary codecs. H.265 may be a great codec, but the licensing fees are basically a tax on the world.

The best solution would be an overall switch to AV1. But silicon support for that is not nearly as widespread.

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[-] commander@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Dumb of HP and Dell to not eat the cost. Just in the future never support VVC. HEVC is well enough a thing already. Push defaults to be AV1 and then in like 5-7 years, AV2. I use AV1 for everything I can. Computer supports it. My phone does not but edits I do on my PC will be encoded to AV1. Photos, support JPEG-XL but in the interim, AVIF. Screw apple for going with HEIC. I highly doubt that there will be a successor to UHD Blu-Rays to adopt VVC. No big reason to jump to 8k. Only good would be higher bitrates/better compression and audio.

Films are mostly recorded digitally with 4k-6k cameras or a limited amount of 35mm still going on that scans well to around 4k. 8K digital cinema cameras are becoming more common but the 4k-6k ones are dominant and 70mm is expensive and uncommon. Plus significant digital effects are prevalent on even low action movies, non-sci-fi. Those are still going to have been mostly done and mastered for 4k. Another round of remastering required for 8k content where digital or 70mm film masters exists. Dinosaur broadcasters may choose VVC the shrinking world population watching dinosaur broadcasters. AV1 is increasingly the present and AV2 will be the future. VVC will be end of line because of short sighted greed

[-] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

It's clearly a move to make torrent for movies unviable and get funding from Netflix.

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

So, yeah, HP and Dell are fucked - by what you may ask? Why, AI of course, because it's hiked memory prices so far up it's eating up their profit margins. They might be doomed.

[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Kinda makes me even more glad I've been migrating all my stuff over to AV1/OPUS.

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