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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 month ago

They are disabling it because the license cost went up 4 cents? Just pass that cost onto the customer. Even if they mark that up several times, I would rather pay that than have my battery drained because I have to software decode a video.

There is still a lot of H.265 content out there. I have many terabytes of it that I don't want to transcode.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

"license cost" is a stupid problem to have in the first place. adopt a foss standard, why won't this get through to these thick skulled morons.

[-] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

Well, hevc already is a standard. It’s too late now. AV1 will need some time until it’s widely adopted.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

synology also did this recently. shit should be illegal.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

What should be illegal is patents like this!

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

that was the final straw for me to switch NAS vendors when I next upgrade.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

From the article:

Last year, NAS company Synology announced that it was ending support for HEVC, as well as H.264/AVC and VCI, transcoding on its DiskStation Manager and BeeStation OS platforms, saying that “support for video codecs is widespread on end devices, such as smartphones, tablets, computers, and smart TVs.”

Well, not anymore lol.

[-] OmegaSunkey@ani.social 15 points 1 month ago
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[-] sepi@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

Here's two brands I've not touched in decades. Keeping it that way.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

What have you touched recently? Asking, because my Lenovo V14 thing is fine inside, but everything mechanical is crumbling in my hands.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 10 points 1 month ago

increasing from $0.20 each to $0.24 each in the United States. To put that into perspective, in Q3 2025, HP sold 15,002,000 laptops and desktops

“This is pretty ridiculous, given these systems are $800+ a machine

I wonder how long the list of these fees for one machine is

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's about a $600,000 savings for that quarter, for a company that reported $13.9 billion in revenue for Q3 2025.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It would be cruel of us to ask them to only have $13,899,400,000 in revenue that quarter instead of $13,900,000,000

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Someone was a doing a lot of hard work subtracting big scary numbers in their budget sheet.

[-] tangeli@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

Is it disabled in hardware, firmware or software? Does Linux enable it?

[-] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Reading through a bit it sounds like it works on Linux, not on Windows. Folks are hypothesizing it’s disabled at the ACPI level because different drivers don’t help.

[-] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Imagine buying a "Pro" laptop that can't even play HEVC videos without software transcoding. This is insane penny pinching and infuriating

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Let me get this straight - people buy a product advertised as having a feature, containing a part also advertised as having that feature, and then they disable it after purchase?

How is that legal?

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago

Americans have no consumer protections.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Why would they when capitalists are more important than the consumers.

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

does dell/hp have to pay annual license fees in perpetuity for systems they sell????

[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

H.265 (HEVC) is not a free (as in freedom) codec, so yes. You as an individual consumer can use things like Handbrake to encode H.265 video for your personal use, probably using the free x265 software encoder, but in order for a device like your phone, camera, TV, laptop, etc. to have hardware accelerated encoding or decoding, the manufacturer has to pay a licensing fee.

This is true of lots of proprietary technologies. HDMI is another one. In order for a device to ship with an HDMI port (as opposed to Displayport), the manufacturer has to pay a per-device licensing fee.

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[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

i use x265 for EVERYTHING. i had no clue about this.

fuck.

webm? lol

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

webm is a container, not a codec

Even if you hit that blocker, you can still software-decode with [alternative] software.

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

How is this done? Can you just re-enable the feature in the BIOS? And what about machines sold outside the US?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don't for a second believe this is about the rising cost. It raised by $0.04. Someone below said that works out to a savings of $600,000.

Alright, but for an individual, it's $0.04.

Just increase the final price by $0.25. You made back your $600,000. Plus whatever $0.21 would equate to as GAINS.

Fuck guys. You suck at business. This is what happens when companies replace their CEO with AI.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The HP 16" EliteBook 665 G11 Notebook costs $1500. That means this $600k "cost cutting" measure starts to decrease revenue if only 400 people buy a laptop from a different brand.

Or even a single person. Someone tasked to purchase 400 laptops for a company, reads this news and decides to get ThinkPads instead...

Sell the CEO private jet if they really need the money

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

The real key is buried in the middle, where they say hardware decode capabilities are going to be restricted to models with discrete GPUs... Meaning they can make a $500 upsell mandatory for the most basic of capabilities.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Both HP and Dell are partnered with Microsoft, and have been for decades. Isn't a discrete GPU one of the things required for Microsoft Recall ready machines?

There's NO way they broke HEVC just for 4¢. Something else is paying them a lot more, and Recall would be one of those things.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yes this is absolutely ridiculous.

This is also a good reason to avoid proprietary codecs. H.265 may be a great codec, but the licensing fees are basically a tax on the world.

The best solution would be an overall switch to AV1. But silicon support for that is not nearly as widespread.

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[-] commander@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Dumb of HP and Dell to not eat the cost. Just in the future never support VVC. HEVC is well enough a thing already. Push defaults to be AV1 and then in like 5-7 years, AV2. I use AV1 for everything I can. Computer supports it. My phone does not but edits I do on my PC will be encoded to AV1. Photos, support JPEG-XL but in the interim, AVIF. Screw apple for going with HEIC. I highly doubt that there will be a successor to UHD Blu-Rays to adopt VVC. No big reason to jump to 8k. Only good would be higher bitrates/better compression and audio.

Films are mostly recorded digitally with 4k-6k cameras or a limited amount of 35mm still going on that scans well to around 4k. 8K digital cinema cameras are becoming more common but the 4k-6k ones are dominant and 70mm is expensive and uncommon. Plus significant digital effects are prevalent on even low action movies, non-sci-fi. Those are still going to have been mostly done and mastered for 4k. Another round of remastering required for 8k content where digital or 70mm film masters exists. Dinosaur broadcasters may choose VVC the shrinking world population watching dinosaur broadcasters. AV1 is increasingly the present and AV2 will be the future. VVC will be end of line because of short sighted greed

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

So, yeah, HP and Dell are fucked - by what you may ask? Why, AI of course, because it's hiked memory prices so far up it's eating up their profit margins. They might be doomed.

[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Kinda makes me even more glad I've been migrating all my stuff over to AV1/OPUS.

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