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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

We’ve updated this article after realising we contributed to a perfect storm of misunderstanding around a recent change in the wording and placement of Gmail’s smart features. The settings themselves aren’t new, but the way Google recently rewrote and surfaced them led a lot of people (including us) to believe Gmail content might be used to train Google’s AI models, and that users were being opted in automatically. After taking a closer look at Google’s documentation and reviewing other reporting, that doesn’t appear to be the case.

lol

[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

eh, who reads fine print. they do it anyway. feel good switch. yah! ai wrote the correction

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

How to "opt out":

  • Open Gmail desktop in browser
  • Settings icon
  • View all settings
  • General tab
  • Unchecked Turn on smart features in Gmail, Chat, and Meet
[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's cute how everyone thinks that just by clicking the little opt-out button they're actually going to magically not have already fed your entire email backlog into their massive AI database. 😂

But hey, scouts honor, if you click that opt-out button they promise never to use any of your new emails in their constant information scape of your life.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have yet to see any of these news sites show evidence that this setting is for allowing training with your data. That's not what the setting itself says, it seems like this is just a panicked ripple of clickbait titles sweeping rapidly across social media on a wave of AI dopamine.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because if there's one thing we know about AI companies, it's that they definitely tell you what data they're planning on using to train their AI.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

You are being sarcastic but this is indeed the case. Especially for companies like Google, which are concerned about being sued or dumped by major corporations that very much don't want their data to be used for training without permission.

There's a bit of a free-for-all with published data these days, but private data is another matter.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

If it sees my attachments then all it's gonna get is a lot of very poorly written smut. Happy to help make the lying machine worse, guys.

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

So glad I switched email and calender services years ago.

[-] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

Remember, Google is not alone:

[-] tym@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

The age of accelerated enshitification is upon us (has been for a minute)

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's not really enshittification when "Google reads your mail" has been the entire point since the launch of GMail. Relevant ads, grouping mails into topics, find spam, etc. has always been the selling point of GMail.

[-] mika_mika@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I use thunderbird but I don't know what email server to use!! No outlook because fuck Microsoft too, but my Gmail gotta go too if it's this blatantly intrusive. Who do I use?? I'm too poor to host myself.

[-] mika_mika@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Who is down voting me for this? I am asking a serious question. 😭

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hehe idk.

posteo for 1 eur/month? (Heard good stuff)

ProtonMail is a good free option (if I were paying and didn't care about using my own custom domain posteo seems a lot better & cheaper)

[-] mika_mika@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Proton mail charges to be compatible with Thunderbird I tried that already.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

I only have one fake google account on an isolated VM with dedicated VPN. For the rare cases it's unavoidable for something. Whoever actually uses gmail, will get what they pay for.

But this is probably anti-AI-ragebait anyway.

[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

wtf is your threat model where you're using a throwaway gmail in a vm on a vpn? you in iran or something bro? shiiiiiiiiit

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hehe, nah, germany. But I like my privacy and don't like gifting away my data for free :)

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Cool it is being trained on a ton of spam and vendor emails..

[-] Life_inst_bad@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Who would have guessed?

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