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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Scream it as loud as you can: Zionism goes against the core values of Judaism. Conflating the two is fascist propaganda and this is proof of it.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism - and it has always been antisemitic to the core.

Israel is a kapo state for the west - that's why all the countries that are Israel's traditional enablers also happen to be countries with deep histories of white supremacism, antisemitism and colonialism.

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

Agree to disagree. The old testament is full of YHWH-approved genocides, just a few examples here. It's not fascism, it's just religion. It's part of their culture and not much different from other middle eastern traditions. Which deserve to be studied, understood and respected before frowning upon them with superiority as if in the west we're enlightened because we have laicism (which we do not even have).

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Blaming texts that was written thousands of years ago for modern day realpolitik is about as delusional as it gets.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I agree. Sadly there’s a whole bunch of people that take those texts just real fuckin serious, and they’re the ones causing a lot of these problems

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Sadly there’s a whole bunch of people that take those texts just real fuckin serious

Not really... they just pretend to to justify their power and privilege. You'll find just as many narratives in the old testament that subverts the ones the settler-colonialists are using - for instance, the (supposed) ill treatment of the Hebrews by the Egyptian Pharoah isn't half as terrible as what Israel is subjecting Palestinians to.

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

I'm delusional for telling that ancient texts should "respected studied and understood" (as a culture with 5 millennia of history deserves). What would I have been if I had told that the books should be burned and the culture annihilated. To study a text, in my language, implies to put it in the proper context. And my argument was that the roots of today's mentality are ancient.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I’m delusional for telling that ancient texts should “respected studied and understood”

Study and understand them as much as you want... but if you are trying to whitesplain away western-backed settler-colonialism by using these ancient texts as a prop you are either delusional or a propagandist.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes that is in fact true, however, you, fool, have failed to consider the following:

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FR though, jokes aside 90% of atheists I see on the internet are just reactionaries who buy into bigotry if someone cloaks it in logic.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

FR though, jokes aside 90% of atheists I see on the internet are just reactionaries

I'd say 90% is still being generous.

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