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[-] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't have it saved but I'm sure someone does, that Tumblr post about how there shouldn't be no exception death penalties for things because as soon as there are, Republicans are just gonna start redefining LGBTQ people as criminals in an effort to eradicate them. "Death penalty no exception for pedophiles. Oh trans people are pedophiles. Death penalty for trans people". It's been a little bit since I've seen it so I'm iffy on the details but I imagine someone will link it here to do the concept better justice.

Edit Found it, that was a pain in the ass to search for lol https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/45c407a0-332b-4226-9176-1bd2658bfc45.webp

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Came here to make this point.

You can be sure that when a person like DeSantis says "death to pediohiles" they're thinking of trans people, not Trump.

[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Sorry, you mean anyone not white, straight, rich and male.

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't have a Tumblr post, but I do have this.

Edit: from page 5:
"Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered."

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

You should note that it’s from Project 2025 for those that won’t open the link.

Public libraries who purvey it. Wow. Yeah show me a public library hosting porn. Except that’s not actually what they mean, they mean books that contain topics they don’t like.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's stumbled across someone realphabetizing their card catalog in the computer section. They could be thinking of that too, that's no fun.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

This is the problem with a post-Truth world.

People can use terms like "porn" or "pedophile" or any other word that it taboo and catches the public's attention enough to sew doubt.

What we need are people catering to facts, and calling out this bullshit for what it is.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

There really shouldn't be any death penalty at all.

Any sort of "death to X, no exception" is pure rhetoric btw. It's scary how strong that rhetoric is and how both voters & people with a lot of power support it, but afaik no rule of law knows any such thing.

Of course, the USA is this 🤏 close to tyranny, but not yet!

Nicer link btw:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/45c407a0-332b-4226-9176-1bd2658bfc45.webp

[-] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Agreed. So many common sense arguments against it. And thank you for the nicer link!

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The argument is flawed in the following way.

  1. If some crimes are punished more severely than others, then the government could accuse its critics of committing these crimes and/or criminalize opponents out of existence.
  2. Therefore, no crimes should be punished more severely than other crimes.

But this conclusion is ridiculous. Some crimes should be punished more severely, possibly up to and including the death penalty.

My point is that if you do want to argue against the death penalty, this argument is not it.

[-] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Or, I dunno, maybe don't have a sweeping death penalty? Just the fact that it's prohibitively more expensive, and that far more often than is comfortable people who have been executed are later exonerated for their crimes. Can't exactly "oopsie sorry" an execution. But that's a whole different argument, granted.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just the fact that it’s prohibitively more expensive,

Bruh. I'm not even the guy you responded to but speaking of bad fucking arguments against the death penalty, that one is close to the top.

The state shouldn't kill people because it is fucking immoral, not because it's too expensive. Jesus christ.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

This is more of a counter-argument. I've frequently seen supporters of the death penalty claim it is cheaper than housing the person in prison for life. But this is false.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Fair enough. Sorry for being a belligerent asshole.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

This is exactly it. Death penalties are dangerous because words are ultimately meaningless, and as we've seen in the misinformation age, people of a particular political party (in the US) can call people pedophiles in name when there is no actual evidence that's the case. Truth has gone by the way side.

What we really need is due process for figuring this shit out, as well as a properly funded remediation program so people can learn why what they did was wrong.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

I buy that argument. Because as soon as you criminalize one sexual orientation, which we know are determined to be genetic in nature, like pedophilia, then you can criminalize any sexual orientation, like homosexuality.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 14 points 3 months ago

So that's why Megyn was splitting hairs the other day!

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Yup. A lot of republicans are about to get super creepy on definitions.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

The argument of punishment detering crime is bewildering. Like, you would think that after a few thousand years there would be evidence to support this argument.

[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

People only bring up this argument to distract from the fact that their real motivation is primitive revenge.

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

And an easy way to rid themselves of folks they don't like. Are you a pain in my ass? Guess your a pedophile

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I got a brilliant idea. Lets make being homeless a crime punishable by death! We can solve the homeless problem by deterring homelessness!

[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago
[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah seriously, aren't Trump and DeSatan mortal enemies?

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Reminder that in Florida "pedophile" means "being trans in public."

This is about killing queer people, not child sex offenders.

[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I know there's Godwin's Law. And yes, I always tried very hard not to bring up Hitler and not to compare Trump with him.

But as a historically inclined German I would like to point out that I simply cannot help but constantly find parallels between Trump / magaworld and the Nazis.

They keep hating on a small, completely innocent and harmless minority. They threaten their lives. It is truly shocking to me.

To anyone who still says "No, you can't compare Trump to Hitler", I say: Look at this list and tell me Trump isn't a vile, disgusting demagogue.

The only difference to Hitler being (thank fuck!) he's not hellbent on waging war on the entire world.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Content not viewable in your region.

Please upload to Lemmy rather than a corp that deletes old pics of accounts without subscription.

[-] tea@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I guess DeSantis and Matt Gaetz aren't on speaking terms...

[-] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can not proof that someone is pedophile, you can only proof sexual assault / child rape

And you can be pedophile and don’t show it at all

And most tings about girls considered as beautiful is kinda pedophile

Meaning with that argument, you would have to kill a big portion of society…

And last, death penalty is always stupid, stop that shit, please!

this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2025
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