Depending on the topics, Whirlpool is still pretty active: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/
I always hated the UX of forums. It was incredibly difficult to follow long threads with loads of pages. Personally I prefer the format we have here on Lemmy where comments are nested off the main post.
I like forums, but maybe I'm part of the problem. I've read a forum obsessively for years without registering an account. Even when I have an account, I rarely post/comment. I've been reading Lemmy almost daily for over a year before registering an account and don't reply much even with an account. Decentralization starts with individuals, so I'm going to try to add signal to the fediverse.
I generally prefer the traditional flat forum UI with oldest first, but that's mostly a client issue. The problem though is if others are using a different UI the conversation may flow differently (think threaded vs flat forums).
RE karma, a lot of forums show post counts and like counts next to their forum profile, which is often included in every reply, so in some ways, the likes (karma) was a little more in your face. I think there was less astro turfing due to scope of benefit. What I mean is that while traditional forums were decentralized, so was the account and its reputation, so karma (like/post count) farming was isolated to that specific forum/community and if you were astro turfing, you'd get banned and lose that and could not transsfer that to other forums. Services like reddit effectively make this transferrable between forums. I'm concerned about how this will play out as decentralized platforms grow. It could be worse than reddit. I've been trying to come up with ways to handle this, but I can find flaws in every idea I've had so far.
The problem though is if others are using a different UI the conversation may flow differently
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. You CAN recreate the message board experience on Lemmy pretty faithfully by sorting posts by latest comment (like the bumping system of forums) and setting comments to "chat" which flattens the comment tree, and sorting oldest to newest, but nobody does that so the community doesn't develop around it.
Wake me up when Usenet comes back around.
Yes. I’m still on one or two but they’re definitely diminished. They had a bad habit of degenerating into factionalism, or losing their plurality of viewpoints due to popularist ideological purity purges.
Still on a forum for sports
Luckily there are still some interesting forums around for specific topics and old school games!
I also notice that I don't pay attention to usernames on Lemmy (or Reddit back when I was on it). They're just disembodied thoughts floating through the ether. On message boards, I get to know specific users, their personalities and preferences and ups and downs. I notice when certain users don't post for a while and miss them if they're gone for too long.
I feel unseen.
You were the first username I recognized on lemmy, and remain the most visible.
Get the Discourse app and find a forum you like. Or start your own. It’s cheap, I’m spending less than 2 coffees a month to host one.
I actually tried this, with nodeBB rather than Discourse. Thing is I don't trust myself to secure people's PII, and I was kind of stepping on the toes of an already established community that I'm a part of and had no intention of fracturing. I just didn't like (and still don't tbh) their use of phpBB. I want to be able to use markdown instead of bbcode and I want a user mention feature. But the forum is the people, not the platform.
I miss UUCP style forums. They had threading that worked and the concept of 'i've alread read this so don't show it to me again'. Together those made it easy to see well thought out responses weeks latter.
All other forums are worse. They encourage writing something quick - long well thought writing won't be found because by the time someone gets it down the topic is dead.
though the original trolls were from such forums. It should be no surprise that everyone else has them - they change nothing.
Ah, the good old days of the internet. Yes, I miss them. There are still a few around, like the Linux Mint forum, and some other tech-related ones. But it used to be you could find any topic you were interested in and your account and username were specific to it, and they were separate domains (in the normal, non-tech sense of the word). So you might show one aspect of your personality in one forum and a different aspect in a different kind of forum. Just like you would with different friend or acquaintance groups.
Yes and no... I miss the internet from the time period of traditional forums; but the forums themselves... I'm not 100% sure. The community feel was arguably better back then, and I do agree with you about not paying attention to usernames on Lemmy or Reddit vs getting to know specific users. There's something about associating an image, or a signature with a user that we don't really get on the more modern platforms.
I think it's a problem of scale. Lemmy and Reddit have very large user-bases for a plethora of topics and interests, all congregated within a common location. Forums were for specific sets of interests with recurring, smaller user-bases.
Maybe we could get something that's a hybrid of both by bringing back signatures with animated gifs at the end of each post we make on Lemmy.
Visit cyberspace.online
I actually do really like that one. Has a cyber cafe exploring the forums vibe
Bodybuilding forums led to a notorious debate on the number of days in a week. I feel like a reddit format would water down the debate by not presenting replies as they are posted in real time.
Not particularly.
There was so much to deal with back then. So many different rule sets to follow, so many differences in each community, so many sign-up and on-boarding processes for posting or contributing each.
I miss the internet itself from that time period, and I realize that there is a certain community feel that is missing due to how congregated the current internet is, but I still don't really miss forums specifically all that much.
I prefer and always have preferred a vote system like we have here. Forums made paralel conversations impossible to follow, gave a bigger voice to trolls and made finding information in big threads difficult. I absolutely hated the common answer to a question being "search the forum". I already have Jared, the search function is trash and the information is scattered and outdated.
What aspect I do miss is the fact that threads stayed relevant for more than 24hrs. I think a combination of the two systems would work for a forum 2.0, where ranking is based on activity and votes, so a post gets pushed back up in ranking if it's still active and relevant, instead of just taking raw votes and age in considerarion, but also the comments within are grouped in conversations based on who replied to who and can move up and down based on activity and age.
Except vote systems are abused to hell. Dissenting opinions are down voted into oblivion and we end up with the echo chamber.
I spent a lot of time on the ebaumsworld forums in the early 2000s, and it was your classic shitshow. Not a huge amount of traffic, though, so you could have conversations, but you'd leave, and come back the next day, and sometimes you'd have pages of nonsense to read through.
Then, they introduced rep, and it was such a shitshow. Users conspired together to abuse it, because that's how it goes, except now, instead of late night Skype sessions, it's bots, and marketing, and PR.
I guess the problem was and always is, when there's too many people, it ruins things.
Yeah, I dare anyone to try digging through this thread and still claim afterwards that it's better than branched comments.
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