The people who are most upset by this use LTS Debian and won't even see the current version of Plasma until 2050
I think the main thing holding Wayland back are older drivers which don't work well with it and impact on things like games. Once its over that hump there isn't much reason for maintainers to suffer two back ends any more.
I do like Wayland but it still has some issues that are annoying:
When using remote input solutions (e.g InputLeap) you have to approve the input capture, and you need a mouse and keyboard connected to the PC to do that, making it kind of pointless.
Remote desktop also requires the same thing, like, what if I don't have a mouse & keyboard attached? What if it is a PC you are accessing from another country? You can't just fly back to approve the remote desktop request.
This needs to get fixed ASAP in my opinion, since people do need these tools and sometimes you can't connect a mouse & kb to the PC to just approve the request.
If your user is in the input group (set up in pretty much every distro), you can use uinput over netcat for forwarding devices (display server agnostic) without extra privileges. Same with the video group. No idea if anyone used this in an actual remote desktop software tho.
InputLeap is the only thing that keeps me on X at the moment. Especially since I need it between a Linux host and a Windows client. It just doesn't work if I use Plasma with Wayland unfortunately and honestly, the github page of InputLeap is everything but helpful.
Have you tried out Deskflow?
InputLeap is effectively abandoned and the maintainer has taken over Deskflow which has better Wayland support
No, I haven't, but will check it out, thanks!
I didn't know InputLeap is also abandoned. Heck, I moved to it from Barrier for the same reason :P
Wayland dragging Linux nerds kicking and screaming into the 21st century
I just want my AHK stuff to work again. They're dragging us kicking and screeming into un-avoidable security that breaks software that noone is up for fixing.
Yep, staying on xorg for autokey, antimicrox, pyautogui, and TeamViewer.
antimicrox works on Wayland iirc
As soon as I saw this i knew I had to go to the phoronix comments and bask in the shit flinging
The only real problem I have with Wayland is not being able to find a reliable way to have unattended Remote Desktop in the same session as the local user. I can do most of my remote work over ssh but for some things I prefer a gui.
Despite all its shortcomings, I do believe Wayland is the future. Sooner or later, all the funky decorative quirks will be some relics of the past.
Maybe someday, they will be added back, and we'll once again have that jelly window effect, but at the moment, people actually depend on this thing to do some work, even more true with the Windows exodus.
I'd rather that they focus at the risk of being dull rather than fumbling on this chance.
Yes, I know that popularity isn't everything, but considering how big they (and GNOME) are, they can really make The Year of Linux Desktop(TM).
Wobbly windows is back already, as is The Cube.
Hell yeah! Scratch that part about being dull and boring then!
yeah the wayland effects are way nicer than what was possible on x11.
Honestly for the best. X11 was great for what it was, but Wayland is the future. XWayland covers X11 apps that haven't been ported yet.
Now I just wish Cinnamon would hurry up and move to fully default Wayland.
Who would have thought the people who code X11 thought it was dated.
It may be the future, but it's unusable for me.
I have a high dpi screen. Upscaling does not perfectly work for me in every program, but simply setting it to Full HD does work and looks fine.
However, when I set it to the lower resolution in Wayland, I have 50% of the display active with black bars all around.
So far, there seems to be no fix for this?
Same thing happens if you start older, lower resolution fullscreen apps (retro games and such).
I've had many similar issues with Wayland. Not thrilled that nearly everyone is throwing in the towel on X11 support.
Which desktop are you using? The high dpi experience is desktop dependent until every one supports fractional scaling
XLibre
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