NATO states considering ‘offensive cyber ops’ against Russia (swentr.site)

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[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz -3 points 5 months ago

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swentr.site is a domain registered in March 2022 and is managed by RU-CENTER, a Russian domain registrar. The domain is associated with ANO “TV-Novosti,” which is the organization behind RT (Russia Today), a Russian state-controlled international news network. The site has been identified as a content mirror or alternative domain for RT, often used to circumvent sanctions or restrictions placed on the main RT domains.[cside +4]

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• Registered: March 5, 2022[whoxy]

• Registrar: RU-CENTER (Russia)[cside +1]

• Hosting: ANO “TV-Novosti” (Russia)[easycounter]

• Purpose: Used as a mirror or alternative domain for RT (Russia Today)

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu -3 points 4 months ago

About time..... RN (ex-FN) has been peddling hate for over a decade with russian funds. Many of my countrypeople have ceded ground to fascist ideology because of that money. I hear it in the news... in the streets... my own neighbours have started losing their legendary empathy. Having principles is great but we have to defend ourselves at some point. Russia is doing real damage to the minds through their local proxies

[+] testfactor@lemmy.world -9 points 5 months ago

I mean, seems fair? It's not like we haven't seen large scale cyber operations carried out in the past, and not a single one has ever been deemed to rise to being an act of war.

Unless you're killing power to hospitals or something, cyber effects seem to be fair play in the modern world stage.

You think Russias gonna declare war on NATO because they have some IT systems destroyed, or a bunch of records stolen or deleted or whatever? I really completely fail to imagine anything short of the "killing power to a hospital" example that would cause an escalation, and honestly, I'm not even sure that would.

Russia is happy to do it to other countries. Turnabout seems fair play to me. Especially since they're doing it while actively committing genocide on a neighboring country.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago

Guaranteed the NATO countries, especially the US and UK, have been engaging in offensive cyber warfare against Russia for over a decade, at least.

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -10 points 5 months ago

If they are then that means one of two things 1. They suck at it or 2.Russia is scary good at blocking it.

The fact that china felt the need to isolate their people from the global net, yet russia didn't makes me think nato just isn't that good at aggressive cyber psyops.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

The US literally invented the Internet. It controlled all of the technology for years. It codeveloped it with the military. Every single major tech company has deep ties to the US military. Many of US tech companies are actually spinoffs from military projects. And US tech dominated the global market. And the tech companies are installing backdoors at the behest of the military (Snowden leaks).

The embargos/sanctions against Russia likely creates tons of opportunity for Russia to develop alternative technologies so they are less dependent on US persistent threats, I mean product.

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -16 points 5 months ago

And yet they elected trump, and are clearly being manipulated by foreign agents. They may have invented it but it wouldn't be the first time the creator failed to fully utilise their creation.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

A, that's not cyber warfare. That's cyber propaganda. B, Americans don't need foreign influence to be racist misogynist violent jingoistic bigots.

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -11 points 5 months ago

A. I said cyber PSYOPS not warfare and there is an argument to be made that propaganda IS a form of warfare (Eg it is according to russian doctrine). B. There has been a distinct upwards trend in American cuntishness over the last 15 years, well more of a dropping of the mask.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

You never said the word psyops in any of these comments. What the fuck?

If things have gotten worse in the last 15 years, I'm certain it is because of the state of the American psyche and not because of some foreign propaganda.

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -10 points 5 months ago

Literally the last word in my first comment. Russia launched a psyop in 2009 aimed at causing unrest in western democracies

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sorry. What thread do you think you're on right now?

[-] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -5 points 5 months ago

My first comment, posted as a reply to your first comment. There is only one thread?

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -7 points 5 months ago

If you look a little harder you'll realise that post is unedited, but if you're resorting to insults I think you know that. Apologies cost nothing, you can admit you didn't actually read what I wrote before getting agitated.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Sorry I didn't realize you changed the subject so that you could steer the conversation towards absolving the USA of its centuries-long violent, racist, genocidal, jingoistic psychosis by blaming it on Russian psyops.

My bad.

[+] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip -7 points 5 months ago

Lol wut.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Not a single word in the article even hints at psyops.

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

"Iz da ~~jooz~~ ruzzianz fault. Da innocent arianz got corrupted by ~~immigrantz~~ foreignerz"

Lying western oligarchies.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Literally Nazi conspiracy theories

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Amazing how Nazi Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracy theory is now just mainstream dogma among Western liberals

[-] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hello 'worlder, welcome to the side of the fediverse outside of the NATO media bubble.

If you want to know the truth, I will lay down a trail. If you literally respond to this by calling me a Russian troll then you are a joke. If the Russians could actually do informational warfare as well as the West none of us would be having this conversation.

The 2014 coup was orchestrated by the United States and brought a radical Nazi faction called the Banderites into power in Ukraine.

The Banderites spent the next 7 years conducting a genocidal campaign in the Donbass against ethnolinguistic Russians.

Over those 7 years the West sabotaged and undermined three separate peace agreements, known as Minsk one and two and Istanbul. These facts have even been documented in the western press. Look up Angela Merkel conceding that the only point of the Minsk agreements was to stall and rearm the Ukrainians, and look up how Boris Johnson sabotaged the Istanbul agreement.

Now that that history is out of the way we can talk about the present day. The Russians are completely dominant on the battlefield. The Ukrainian military is in an advanced stage of collapse. Despite this, the Ukrainians and Europeans are continuing to sabotage peace talks by making completely absurd demands (as the party that is LOSING BADLY). The reason this is happening is because the point of the war from the beginning was to weaken Russia. Unfortunately for them this might be the greatest backfire in human history. They are extremely unable to cope with this, hence the hysteria and nonsense.

[-] jankforlife@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

NATO is a imperialist org. There nothing "fair" about it this is yet another US empire attempt to intimidate and control

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