820
DO.IT.
That orange fucker needs to see some consequences for his actions for once.
More than him -- our nations people.
When Nixon fucked around he stepped down. In doing so, he said to the American people "what I did was wrong and I recognize that."
Trump won't admit wrongdoing. He's been indicted on fucking 90 counts. Until he is actually punished, his followers will only see that they can try to do the same.
Society needs to renounce him, fully, or were fucked.
Meh. I kinda wish we would have set a harder precedent with rather than letting him go on a PR tour.
I think it possibly could have prevented a lot of the ensuing political corruption we’ve seen.
Same could have been said if we had actually nailed Ronnie Raygun to the wall for Iran/Contra. Instead, we let him coast. And that was even worse than Watergate.
Republicans have been skating for years and years for their crimes.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Ford pardoned Nixon, so there wasn't much that could be done to punish Nixon after that. They couldn't even go after him at the state level since the Watergate scandal happened in DC. Pardoning Nixon was a major part of why Ford didn't get reelected, although there were several other major reasons for that.
load more comments
(1 replies)
He won’t
load more comments
(17 replies)
In response, Trump's defense attorney, Chris Kise said, "Based on my understanding this was truly inadvertent."
"The Truth Social post was taken down when the court asked," Kise said. "Truth Social was taken down and Trump never made any more comments about court staff, but it appears no one took it down on the campaign website. It is unfortunate and I apologize on behalf of my client."
Whoops! My bad. All good here, nothing to see.
Oh, that's bullshit. He has some sort of fetish about being thrown in jail over campaign speech. It is no accident they left it up there. "Biden locked me up because he is afraid of my campaign!!!1!!1111!!1!one!"
It's easy. He gets thrown in jail, him and his cronies get to paint him as a martyr. It's all he has left
Fetish is probably exactly the right word. He idolizes Hitler. Jan 6 was his Beer Hall Putsch, next he needs to get convicted, give a really long speech about being wildly more antiemetic and patriotic than anyone could ever imagine and then he needs to sit in a cushy prison cell where he can "write" his version of Mien Kampf.
load more comments
(4 replies)
"We're terribly, terribly sorry about being caught."
load more comments
(2 replies)
I look forward to never hearing the name Trump again.
Unfortunately I don't think we will ever stop hearing his name, Hitler has been dead for almost 80 years and we still hear his almost daily.
Yeah, but as fucked up as it is to say, Hitler actually accomplished something with his time in power worth talking a about.
Trump packed the Supreme Court and did irreversible damage to our election process and radicalized half the nation, just because the wave hasn't hit the shore yet doesn't mean he didn't do any damage. The damage he did will be unfolding itself for a lifetime, give the dust some time to settle and then evaluate what he "accomplished".
load more comments
(1 replies)
Yeah. He killed Hitler. It's like....the one good thing he did. Any other accomplishments he may have had are rendered null and void by the atrocities he committed.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
Hitler was much more impactful though, he is directly responsible for the deaths of tens of millions and a war that devastated countries around the globe.
Trump is a corrupt politician who was too incompetent to accomplish what his handlers wanted. He wants to be a Mussolini, he just isn’t capable.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Judges parenting baby Trump:
I’m gonna count to 3!
1…
2…
2 and a half…
2 and three quarters…
almost 3…
seriously really almost 3…
load more comments
(1 replies)
But instead fined him $5,000. This headline is stupid.
I am not a lawyer, but my first thought is that you cannot pass a six figure (or more) fine for this kind of infraction. Even though Trump is starting to show a pattern of disregarding this specific case’s proceedings, the judge would have to start at a reasonable amount and go up from there. In this case, I searched for reasonable fines for violating a gag order and got $1000 to $10000. If he handed down a $500,000 fine then the media / right would go crazy questioning if this fine was justified by Trump’s actions. I think we all know that regardless of the sum (barring $100,000+ fines), Trump is gonna disregard the fine and do it again. But doing so gets Trump closer to actually being imprisoned (in theory). The actual threat of being imprisoned is far more likely to quiet Trump than a monetary fee. ‘Tis the life of the (comparatively) rich, monetary fines don’t have the same sticking power as for you and I.
There are many other countries, including some with some shared legal history with the US, where civil fines are proportional to the income and/or wealth of the person. Rich people get four or five or six figure traffic tickets, etc.
load more comments
(6 replies)
Stop threatening it. Anyone else would already be behind bars right now. Follow through.
Nobody is above the law. Trump has been fucking around for too long and needs to find out his actions have consequences.
This geriatric fuck hasn’t seen a single consequence in his whole life, would be nice to see literally anything be done
load more comments
(3 replies)
Fucking do it already!
The headline is incorrect. The corrected version should read: "Judge in NY fraud trial threatens to jail Trump for violating gag order, ends up doing nothing."
These people need to shit or get off the pot already. This really is a legalese version of "I'm going to count to three......"
The headline is incorrect, but yours isn't much better.
It should read "Judge asks Trump to explain why he shouldn't be sanctioned or jailed". Because this is what the judge actually said:
I will now allow the defendant to explain why this should not end up with serious sanctions or I could possibly imprison him
load more comments
(10 replies)
Never in the history of our country has a president been indicted so many times. Over so many many alleged crimes. Truly a rigged two tiered just system allowing an indicted former president, storing TS/SCI documents in his bathroom, who has a history of over sharing, and flushing government documents, could remain free, instead of immured in a black-site hole, in pre-trial detainment. Reality Winner was sentenced to five years and three months and she didn't even get to share how close our submarines could get to Russian Subs without being detected. For shame!
so many many ~~alleged~~ crimes.
This isn't a court of law and you aren't a corporation. You're allowed to acknowledge his thoroughly proven (and in some cases even brag-admitted) guilt for what it is. Nobody's going to sue you for telling the truth and nobody reasonable is going to complain either.
load more comments
(1 replies)
To be fair, a decent amount of presidents probably should have been indicted. Trump does take the cake on how directly connected he is to obvious crimes. He's definitely the dumbest in that regard.
Here's what I would do: Trump is ordered to write a formal apology letter to the clerk in which he disavows the spurious claims outlaid in his post, he must record himself reading the letter and post it to his website for at least 2 months. Or he can go to jail for contempt of court.
This way he either does something he definitely does not want to do (admit fault) or go to jail and because he 'holds the keys to his cell' so to speak, his claims of being wrongfully imprisoned would be hollow.
Unfortunately I believe there is a long case history that prevents courts from forcing them to say things as it violates the 1st amendment. Similar to forcing engineers to write code that puts "backdoors" into security systems.
load more comments
(5 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
Wow 5000 dollars to someone worth 9 figures
Fuck threats, fucking do it goddammit
Stop making empty threats. If this had been anyone else, they would have been in jail years ago. But we're a nation of corrupt men and not of laws.
If you're ever unsure whether there are separate judicial systems for the aristocrats and the poors, try threatening a judge while not rich and see how many warnings you get.
Your average citizen would go straight to jail. Trump is just threatened.
Oh I am sure this stern warning will do the trick.
Do it, you fucking coward.
Lock him up!
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2023
820 points (98.2% liked)
politics
19148 readers
2082 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS