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I have 10-15 years of Linux experience for personal use and I have a few years of IT support work in the cloud but I still have some gaps in my tech knowledge, especially in regards to networking. I recently lost my job to AI and I'm interested in what comes next. I won't touch windows. I don't want to install it, image it, use it, support it, etc.

Is it possible to get into an IT career without ever acknowledging the existence of windows?

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[-] hades@programming.dev 36 points 1 month ago

Computer science is just mathematics, you can do it with pen and paper. The actual IT jobs where you don't have to touch windows are plentiful, although it might be a bit of a red flag if you're vehemently refusing to touch some specific software (be it windows, or any other program, or programming language).

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

You want to just work in a cellar? /j /obligatory

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I'm still looking for that ideal tie-in where I link it with something I care about. I don't know if I want to stay in IT, but I have to do something and at least the skills will be transferable. The work from home aspect of IT has also been very good to me. I've outperformed at 40h/week support work while taking care of sick family members and working out of my... walk out basement.

At least I have some outdoor hobbies to bring balance to my cellar-dwelling tenancies.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Oh, I'm a dummy, that joke went right over my head the first time!

[-] Feyr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't think in term of IT. Look at R&D for big tech/cloud companies or even startups Devops or SRE type work

Source: 23 years doing sys admin, devops or SRE for major corps, still don't have a bachelor or touched windows

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the tip about R&D and startups. I ride my bike a lot and sometimes when I go through office parks or light industrial I see boatloads of tech-ish companies that have no consumer name recognition or anything. Whether it's R&D at a big cloud provider or something similar, the behind the scenes stuff is more likely to utilize Linux.

[-] Feyr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah almost every company out there use Linux. Even Microsoft is on Linux these days. I've done farm stuff. Wireless stuff. Cloud stuff. Social network stuff. It's almost 💯 Linux everywhere. And everybody always need devops or SRE types (whether they'll admit it or not, I'm a software eng these days after they converted us) . Back when I was doing cloud stuff I would have killed for anybody with 10 years of personal Linux experience. All we could get were entry level people that barely understood bash

[-] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'm in my 4th undergrad year of majoring CS, and I have never had to use Windows once.

All courses that require their special programs have Linux versions or are cross-platform due to them using languages like Java, like LogicSim, RISC-V, Ocaml, SQL Workbench, etc. Some courses even exclusively use Linux.

The closest thing I have to use Windows for would be .docx documents, but even that is handled by LibreOffice.

Of course, it depends on the institute.

[-] Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Take a look at the Cisco CCNA.

Not really.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Yes. However, you're looking for a unicorn in a very tight market.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

If you are a complete hard-liner, you're going to run into one very particular, and peripheral, obstacle: your employer will almost certainly issue you a Windows laptop. It may not be a large part of your job, but it will be there. Very few companies will offer a Mac, and even fewer will offer Linux.

You might have to work as a freelancer, taking on tasks that can be done without Windows. But even something like web dev will require testing on Windows.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I want to say no.

I have a few friends heavy into IT, years of experience, numerous jobs from big tech to startups. They've all had to touch windows.

As a contract engineer with over 30 gigs in my career, every single one also touched windows.

So...can you? Probably, but it'll make the entire grind harder.

Frankly, my goal is to milk the corporations for as much money as possible - foregoing my own opinions - so I can gtfo this capitalist ride. That means playing nice with Microsoft, unfortunately.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No 🤣

Get over yourself, you're getting paid more than 95% of the planet being in IT.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I did touch windows in my life, but did a lot with OS/2, Solaris and Linux. I currently also use windows because some tools have crappy license management that do not work in VMs.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Raise your dongles

[-] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I managed to get through most of my computer engineering bachelor's using Linux. There were some specialized windows-only programs related to electronics design.

[-] vextuu@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 month ago

Meh, if you're competent enough a degree really isn't worth anything.

Your portfolio is more important.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That portfolio is exponentially easier to build with a degree though.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Geometrically.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Backend programming is almost all Linux. I have two computer science degrees and have only ever used Windows for gaming.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Absolutely not. Unless you get into a really niche career of IT pretty much everything you do will be accessed via a windows device.

you have to understand how that OS will interact with your app and the App’s UI.

As an It professional you need to embrace Windows. it is what pays the bills.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What?

I disagree! For decades I haven't touched windows for professional use. Yes you might need it as a client os but answering the question yes, it's possible.

[-] madnificent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I did not touch Windows during or after my CS degree. No clue what people are on about needing Windows. It was a challenge on my first job where they preferred us to use VMs instead (I did not and it became the norm because it is better).

Graduated in Europe. We had a bunch going through the same. Campus computers were running Linux too. You need someone to champion it in the year and others will join.

[-] regdog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You absolute can become a professional computer toucher without having to engage with Windows. If you look at operating systems for cloud servers you will see that 90% of them are running on some Linux variant.

If you want to use your experience to work with linux desktop machines then that might be tricky. You will have to find a company that mandates to use linux machines. I think your best chances might be a tech startup that has not yet fallen into the windows trap.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Probably varies a lot between countries and universities. In my university, you were better off, if you were on Linux. But I've heard horror stories from the US before, where Windows was mandatory...

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I did it, but that was 32 years ago.

Edit: got the degree and started my career. I've had to deal with windows since then.

Your best bet might be working in university research centers. You will still have to work with windows, but most researchers are trying to save pennies and you can't do that using Windows.

I was hired 25 years ago as a systems admin. At the time I was hired, the organization used Macs in offices. Servers were running Linux, Solaris, and OpenVMS, all of which I had been supporting since college. I was valued for most of the 25 years because I could solve problems no one else could, and I did that by writing code on Linux servers.

Now I've got a manager who doesn't believe in writing code to support our users and thinks Linux is a bad word that we should never use because we might have to support it. Still, he's gung-ho for us to support every new bullshit AI that comes down the pike.

I've got 25 years of code on a Linux server that made lives easier, but I have to eliminate it all because linux is bad. At the same time every AI project our group installs needs new Linux servers set up.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

All that to say, if the job you want exists, you won't be able to get it because I'll beat you to it!

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I couldn't take a linux foundation cert exam with my arch Linux computer. It misidentified my X11 as Wayland and refused to start. They never gave me a refund.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I think if you work in a server farm, that's very possible

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

honestly you have no business working in your field if that’s your approach to a fundamental facet of your job. that’s like a farmer refusing to use a spade because they prefer shovels.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Disagree. People are allowed to specialize. A lot of tech companies are macs and linux in the cloud these days anyway. There is no need to touch windows. And given it's disrespect for privacy, it is probably a significant risk as an endpoint in a corporate environment.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I read that even Azure, which you would expect to have a ton of Windows machines deployed, is like 66%+ Linux VMs. I was surprised to hear that, but it matches my limited experience.

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