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Oh boy, strap in. Can't wait to hear how many keyboard commandos think Ukrainians should get shoved into the meat grinder for another year.
Well if we're not going to bother helping them win, then yeah, I guess they should surrender for now until Russia's recovered enough that they can finish the job.
Fuck Ukraine, not our problem, there's nothing we can do anyway and none of this is ever going to affect any of us. /s
Well if we’re not going to bother helping them win
We've been happy to lard them up with debt and sell them overpriced military surplus. Idk if that counts as "helping them win" but we've made a handsome profit off it.
Fuck Ukraine, not our problem
Hey now. Don't look at Ukraine as a problem. Look at Ukraine as a big play for recently vacated real estate. Jared Kushner is going to make so much fucking money leasing Ukraine's land back to its residents.
Now Ukrainians? They're going to get fucked.
Fair point, but really, I don't know why they can't single-handedly win a war against a country 10x their size using only our obsolete overpriced leftovers, with strings attached telling how they're allowed and not allowed to use them. Are they even trying? /s
I don’t know why they can’t single-handedly win a war against a country 10x their size using only our obsolete overpriced leftovers
I mean, ask Afghanistan, Vietnam, or Korea.
But also ask why these wars popped off to begin with and why they dragged on long after any foreign country had a material interest in continuing the fight.
Also maybe look into the UON and question why the Canadian Parliament was applauding an elderly SS Officer who described WW2 as the best years of his life.
Tons of profit in war mongering.
It's their decision of course. I hate to see them lose, and I hate that my country isn't doing more. We made a damn promise, and when it came time to make good, we half-assed it. Not enough oil I guess. But I also don't want to see Russia bully their way to more territory either, as that just shows the world that they are still a threat, and leads to another round of russian fear for the world.
the vast majority of the world fears the US and Europe more than Russia. In fact, Russia is quite liked by most of the world believe it or not 🤷
The world doesn't fear Russia, though, the world fears the west. It's the west that fears Russia, and is harvesting Ukraine for resources and racking them up with debt for hand-me-down surplus to support the far-right Banderites in Kiev ethnic cleansing the Donbass region. The Ukrainian people increasingly want peace over war, not to fight to the last Ukrainian, it's the Banderites that want to sacrifice Ukrainain people while they hide from the frontlines.
Yeah, only NATO and Israel should be allowed to bully their way into territory.
How about everyone respect the land they've had for decades and stop trying to rekindle colonialism? We're talking about Russia and Ukraine and you're bringing in other entities into the discussion? Try keeping the train on the tracks. Russia already took over Georgia and Crimea in the past 20 years, just a slow progression to reacquire the good ole Soviet Union. If countries really wanna get the band back together, they'd do so with votes or formal agreements. When foreign tanks roll across borders, any claim of a peaceful integration is a fucking lie, and is in fact a bullying, aggressive act of war.
you’re bringing in other entities into the discussion
No mate, that was you.
Russia already took over Georgia
Yeah? Really?
"No investigation, no write to speak" really should be enforced policy.
they’d do so with votes or formal agreements.
Donbas and Crimea tried, Ukraine forbid it.
When foreign tanks roll across borders, any claim of a peaceful integration is a fucking lie, and is in fact a bullying, aggressive act of war.
Local liberal condemns D-Day landings.
Is Germany accepting reality?
Don't get your hopes up yet. The EU is interested in prolonging this war as long as possible. Else betting on war economy is even worse than it already is. Germany simply likes to pretend that they love peace (we aren't Nazis anymore pls we promise OK?). In the meanwhile we will supply weapons like the killing machines we always wanted to be. And when the world is ready for our peace....
...pls let someone else be the pos this time
Danke Merkel!
Good. Hopefully some of these 'painful concessions' are Demilitarization and Denazification.
They hated him because he told them the truth
Apparently, people think Denazification is a bad thing.
Damn, as if Walter White's opinion from Comic-Con matters.
Why can't Russia make any painful concessions instead? They are in the wrong.
usually you have to be winning a war to force concessions from your opponent, shocking i know
Questions asked by a twelve year old
Ignoring how you can consider being against nazis to be "in the wrong", Russia doesn't have to make painful concessions because they are not losing the war. That's how war works.
The country that loses a war is the one that is forced to make concessions. Right and wrong have nothing to do with it.
In the wrong to topple an illegitimate empire-propped Nazi government?
Since when was fighting Nazis, wrong?
Why is it that I only see this news story on Russia-affiliated sites? Strange.
German officials hint that Ukraine may face "painful concessions" ending in referendum
Before any lib confusion, pravda.com.ua is the Ukrayinska Pravda, a Ukrainian online newspaper.
Empire media suppression
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