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Fairphone open sources software for Fairphone 5, 6, and the Moments switch (www.fairphone.com)

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[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 65 points 2 days ago

Google’s recent decision to omit Pixel device trees and compress the Pixel kernel source history has made our work in this area even more important. Going forward, Fairphone devices can be used as potential “reference devices” for open-source ROMs.

Nice. Going to have to get a fairphone, now.

[-] rfr_Foglia@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

If Graphene OS supported Fairphones, that would be a dream

[-] ByteMe@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Maybe they will now

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago

Do it

I have the FP6, it's amazing

[-] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago

Nice. Wish them continued luck

[-] plateee@piefed.social 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does anyone know if Fairphone supports tap-to-pay options? I tried GrapheneOS and although most of it was fine, the inability to use Google wallet for tap to pay was a deal-breaker.

My local credit Union doesn't have an app that supports NFC, and since I'm based in the US, my options are relatively limited.

Oh, and I don't want to buy a smartwatch just so I can put Google wallet on that instead.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

The bank makes these little plastic rectangles called debit cards that you can use.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago

Just use the card your bank gives you?

[-] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago

For real. Trading convenience for security is how we got here though so I really shouldn't be surprised.

[-] Waryle@jlai.lu 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Cards on smartphones are more secure than the real cards. You need a pin on your phone to pay, with a card you can pay up to 50€ without any approval.

Also, should a transaction be intercepted, the pirate would only acquire a Digital Account Number (DAN), which can be invalidated to disable the virtual card on the phone. You can still use the physical card and you can add another virtual card on the same, or on a different device.

If a payment made with your physical card is intercepted, the pirate gets the Primary Account Number (PAN) instead. It means that you must disable the real card as well as any virtual card relying on it, and requires you to await a replacement from your bank, and switch all your payments to this new card.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just because a higher level of security exists doesn't completely invalidate the lower levels.

That, and the physical card your phone uses for funding tap-to-pay is still vulnerable to that same attack, and not everywhere supports tap, and tap only works if you have a functioning device. Not carrying a backup form of payment is asinine.

[-] Waryle@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

"trading convenience for security" was what my comment responded to. Using your phone to pay is not compromising security in any way, quite the contrary actually, and I explained why.

In France, everybody (barring most gas stations, even if I have seen some with tap-to-pay nowadays) can take tap-to-pay, even the remote mountain refuges I have been hiking to. You can even pay tolls and parking with it now.

And somebody even more old-school than you would think you're a fool not taking cash or checks with you as a backup for your card. I've been paying with my phone for years without any problem, I just take my card when I need to refuel my car or traveling, and most of the time I have to check my card pin code anyway on my phone because I never use it.

And if my phone is off for some reason, well I have my watch.

[-] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

You know fair enough on the counter point to my post. I didn't specify this initially but what I was actually thinking is how one would stick with stock android out of convenience (needing tap pay, banking apps, etc) instead of switching to graphene and such.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

you need a smartphone case that holds an nfc creditcard :)

[-] elmicha@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

buy a smartwatch just so I can put Google wallet on that instead.

I think this wouldn't help you anyway, because without Google wallet on the phone you can't set it up on the watch.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

You can still set up a payment method on the watch via Google Wallet even if your phone is rooted. I did this for a year or so with my Pixel watch, before I decided to ditch that for my PineTime watch.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 days ago

The os fairphone use it very clear to stock android.

I can use radio to pay on mine

[-] Ruigaard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Yes it does. But it depends on your bank's app as well.

[-] jinwk00@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Tried any Garmin watch options? Those have decent policy and work fine on my GOS

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I wish there was a fingerprint unlocking option in Garmin tap-to-pay instead of the 4-digit code that everybody can see clearly

[-] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah tap to pay using Google pay definitely works on the Fairphone 6

[-] ji59@hilariouschaos.com 6 points 3 days ago

Fairphone has variant with classic Android, which I have, so paying over NFC with Google wallet worked. I tried it, but do not use anymore by choice. Have you looked for alternatives? I heard about some, but since I do not use it, haven't searched for them.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago

can't wait for the FP7 so i can buy a fairphone. Unless they still.use a USB 2.0 USB port. In which case I will use my current phone until its dead in the water.

[-] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

For what do you use it for?

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

Faster file transfer speeds if I'm taking video off the phone, and I would like to purchase a Nexdock eventually so I can have an easy small thing to carry around for server administration instead of my 16" laptop.

[-] bassad@jlai.lu -1 points 2 days ago

Why use a cable ? Wifi with warpinator is fast enough

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago

The amount of times ive had a large transfer over WiFi fail after like 15 minutes of waiting is more than reason enough. Happened with LocalSend and FTP. I'd rather just use a physical reliable connection. Not to mention WiFi will not work for a Laptop Dock.

[-] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I agree that USB 2.0 isn’t acceptable anymore, but it is what most phones are shipping, even at the highest end. I can see it being difficult for Fairphone to include faster ports, especially when most consumers don’t care too much about it. Are you using a phone with USB 3.0??

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, a Pixel

[-] cole@lemdro.id 6 points 2 days ago

I bet Fairphone is the GrapheneOS partner

[-] normal_user@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

I think they already confirmed it's not fairphone

[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480

Pretty sure it isn't

[-] br3d@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I'm excited to see what people do with the Moments button, because at the moment I barely use it. It'd be great to find an imaginative use for it

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago

I'm using it for the phone torch. I'd love to try integrating it with home assistant to control my room lights.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

You might be able to integrate it with some sort of presence detection sensor so that when you pressed the button on your phone, whichever room you are in would be the one that would react to it.

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I am missing the point of the Moments button (as designed by them) to be honest.

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