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I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.

I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.

Details:

Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve!

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I think a lot of these guides could use more in-depth companion guides to go along with it. Changing your email provider for one is not a simple thing and there are concerns like loss of functionality (Gmail is a good product run by a shit company) and also how to make the process less overwhelming. Some services will give you the option to migrate all your emails from Gmail but maybe you want to start fresh, etc. Then there's going to all of your providers and updating your contact email. Again, not as simple as signing up for another service.

[-] solomonschuler@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

You can always forward emails? All email providers (yes even the shit ones) offer this for free while you migrate from one email account to another

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[-] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

In your guide, Proton's services have the EU flag, but the company is Swiss.

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It is supposed to represent a European company. But will update it as it is confusing.

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[-] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

Where are the password managers? When changing your accounts to another email provider, this is a really good time to also make sure all the accounts have a strong, unique password or phrase.

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

That is true; I am planning to do Password Managers next, but can see now why it would have made sense to include them sooner.

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[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is me, but i did it in reverse. Once windows was behind me it kind of opened up the door to more change. Took me less than a year to arrive at not using my google account at all.

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Great guide! Very useful for people discovering a world outside of the GAFAM’s.

I’ve done everything, but leaving Whatsapp is the most difficult one. I use Threema and Signal with my close friends, but I can’t get rid of Whatsapp because of many groups I have to follow but I’m not close enough to people to ask them to switch.

I’d love it if these two chat services proposed a separate app which would be interoperable with Whatsapp.

Yes Meta would still get some of my data, but less than if I had Whatsapp directly.

Also getting Whatsapp business and setting an automatic answer asking people to contact me through mail, sms or other chats is useful.

Leaving youtube is also difficult as Peertube is lacking non tech content like basketball..

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[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 days ago

I stopped looking at it after initial glance, seeing the top line, the browsers.

Vivaldi?

Really.

No.

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[-] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

What about https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ ?

Doesn't that already serve the same purpose? ... without also recommending to use a closed source browser as Vivaldi like you are doing instead?

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[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

leaving big tech

Firefox is big tech

[-] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

... weeeell... It's big tech in some ways, but not really...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Tech

[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

What stumped me is that YouTube music and apple music are the starting point, and not Spotify.

Also isn't using your own Mailserver with your own domain on any webhoster plus Thunderbird a viable alternative? I've been doing this for like 20 years. That's the beauty of email imo

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[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

how do I take multiple emails and consolidate them into one ? thats the biggest thing preventing me from degoogling gmail

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Thunderbird can do something like this! It's called 'Unified folders' on desktop and 'Unified Inbox' on mobile I think? But essentially it takes all your inboxes and makes them into a single folder.

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

you should never use "just one" email. I would find a service that you can have one main account and have a a few aliases.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

That's cool and all but that doesn't solve my issue of not wanting to use 6+ Gmail accounts, I need to consolidate their inboxes or I can't move away from Gmail

[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

When you select a new email provider check to see if they have a migration tool. For example, I use spacemail and they have this: https://www.spaceship.com/business-email/migrate-business-email/

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

how do

Not entirely sure of your situation. So you have 6+ Gmail accounts and want a service that can import them into a single account?

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I could probably look into it but more so hoping anyone has any ideas or experience as to consolidate the inboxes (keeping incoming emails) into 1 inbox or whatever other strategy would work

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's how aliases work. Pretty much all of the services listed here - https://purchasewithpurpose.io/category/email/ - have them. You can have multiple email addresses, but yet they all go to the same inbox.

As a strategy to minimize your effort in the migration, start by forwarding all your Gmail accounts to the corresponding inbox and/or alias. You can then start using the new service right away and take as long as you need to migrate your accounts across.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks to you I was able to forward all incoming stuff from Gmail into aliased inboxes

cheers

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Glad to hear you came right! Most new email providers have an onboarding process to help with this. Feel free to post on https://lemmy.world/c/PurchaseWithPurpose if you ever get stuck.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Perfect, so there is a way to forward incoming emails right?

I wasn't thinking of aliases but using aliases as the address to forward to is pretty smart

[-] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago
[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Sorry, I did include that on the website https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/49nBOpWnyCdLNGVJ71k6SJ/ - but forgot to update the guide.

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Why avoid Safari if it’s one of the browsers with best privacy rating?

[-] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Safari isn't open source. They could in theory add a backdoor anytime and it would be more difficult to audit.

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

WebKit is open source, Safari is just a front end for it.

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i thought you had stopped recommending protonmail and spotify but i see now both are back (spotify not in this image, but (with caveats) on your website).

i see you've been making these images for many years and obviously put a lot of time in to it - i assume that like most other ethical consumerism campaigns you must have some funding for it? (from who?)

[-] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The guide has had many iterations, and you are right that at one point, they were entirely removed. I've ended up informing rather than hiding, as most of these names are already known, whereas not many people are aware of Spotify's actions (for example). Proton is a little more complicated - I personally won't use them, but I can see the nuance where some people might.

I don't get any funding. I am a developer myself, so I do 80% of the work. The rest is self-funded and will continue for the foreseeable future.

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[-] human@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

Thanks for putting this together. Stuff like this is good for making it more approachable. I definitely have relatives that would benefit from this.

One note though, it would be good if the key included all of the icons and not just the three causes.

As the other commented pointed out, it would also be good to differentiate decentralized services, for example in the category with Mastodon and Bluesky.

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