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Arch Linux’s pkgstats data provides one of the few large-scale, opt-in snapshots of how real users configure their systems. While not a perfect census (participation is voluntary), the long-running dataset offers a clear picture of how desktop environment and window managers’ preferences have shifted across more than a decade.

At the same time, the data (to some extent) also reflects a broader trend for one key reason: as you know, a default Arch installation gives you only a base system, and you build everything else according to your own needs and tastes. In other words, there’s no predefined desktop environment that users are locked into, unlike most other distributions.

That means these statistics give us a very accurate look at which desktop environments and window managers Arch users actually choose to install and use. But enough talk, let’s move on to the data.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 86 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the KDE Plasma desktop at 38.36%, nearly doubling the share of GNOME, which sits at 19.84%

Then xfce at ~11% and cinnamon, mate, etc. to round it out.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 42 points 1 month ago

That feels about right. I know that when I go to set up a desktop system anymore, KDE is usually my default go to. It just works and doesn't tell me no for the few customizations that I want to make. XFCE and the others are absolutely vital for lower power systems. But if you want a low-friction daily driver with plenty nice to haves and easily replicable, it's hard to beat KDE.

[-] flameleaf@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Xfce is very replicable. Moving my install to a new system usually involves little more than copying the config files between home directories.

[-] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago
[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Sort of.

Everything is Wayland compatible but there is no XFWM for Wayland. So, you use a Wayland compositor like LabWC with the rest of XFCE running on top of it. This is the default XFCE config on SUSE Leap for example.

XFCE is not quite as far along on portal support as GNOME or KDE though. Depending on your use case, you may still prefer running on Xorg.

You can run the XFCE apps on any Wayland desktop.

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[-] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

KDE has too much going on for me. I like Cinnamon for everyday use.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You mean like whiz bang zoom distractions or just a lot of stuff to download if you do a full install whether or not you're going to use all the different KDE apps.

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah. All of the stuff i don't use but sits there.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. Though if you are comfortable in Linux. I can recommend Garuda's KDE lite iso. Plasma, SSDM, and just enough other bits to get to the desktop. Missing a lot of other bits some would consider necessary. But it's all just a pacman or yay away. No discover or most of the other KDE apps unless you ask for them. Definitely not for the terminal fearing crowd. But a bit less friction than vanilla arch.

[-] SiblingNoah@piefed.social 38 points 1 month ago

I use KDE Plasma, btw.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Arch users: "Well now I'm definitely not using KDE"

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Did you check the wiki to see which one it says to use??

[-] SirHery@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

KDE because it was recommended with cachy os, and i don't really know enough or care enough to use something else 😅

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

KDE works and Arch is easy to install.

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago

I3. No desktop. Just me and the bash.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Expected it

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Does this count steamOS instances? Because that would really tip the scales in KDE's favor.

[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Niri. I know it's not a DE, but it's currently my fav.

[-] nil@piefed.ca 6 points 1 month ago

yup. I was tempted to give Hyprland a try but noped out for political reasons.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago
[-] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most projects have codes of conduct, even if it's something as simple as Wheaton's Law.

The original creator of hyprland behaved in a way that made people leave the project (the "political" part comes from the creator's discrimination). It was basically a good example for why projects should have codes of conduct.

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[-] SweetCriticalPumpkin@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

from my limited time using it I found niri to be actually so good. will switch over from hyprland eventually i think.

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

Do you happen to know how it is with a multi-monitor setup?

I finished setting up Hyprland 2years ago, then learned about the shit community literally the day after being "ah, finally done!" and haven't found the energy to switch since.

[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I use Niri on triple screens with different sizes and refresh rates, it's all seamless. Plus per-monitor scroll up/down left/right. I have an Nvidia GPU, they seem to have worked out all the problems with Wayland support.

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I am also loving Niri

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

They should do this for Mint. I want to know how many of us weirdos using KDE on Mint there are.

[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Never tried Cinnamon(?) but to be honest, if I was forcred to use Mint, I probably would install KDE Plasma on the device.

Mint is said to be the perfect beginner friendly distribution. I am not sure, why. Robust and easy to understand package/update manager? If some of my f&f would ask to install them Mint, it absolutely would come with Plasma!

[-] Lojcs@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Robust and easy to understand package/update manager?

Honestly if it still has 2 gui package managers like when I last tried it that's not true neither.

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[-] ApertureUA@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

I did that before just getting Arch.

Also, I wonder if KDE on Ubuntu stuff still includes that FUCKASS FONTCONFIG FILE THAT MAKES EVERYTHING LOOK SHIT I SPENT 4 HOURS LOOKING FOR

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I’d use Gnome if it had tray application icon support. I just cannot do without my tray icons for Dropbox.

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If you want to try something fresh, give mangowc a try. It is a tiling wm but also has built-in support for scrolling layouts like Niri (even vertical).

[-] iamlyth@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

I really love gnome but my friends keep pushing me for KDE and I really just don’t like the windows style of desktop.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

You should use what you like.

COSMIC may offer a middle ground if you did want to try something else though.

And KDE is very configurable. It does not have to look like Windows.

[-] kamstrup@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago
[-] FishFace@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Waiting for a tiling window manager with nice animations

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[-] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

KDE, beautiful and flexible

[-] BB_C@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The premise of the question is wrong, since it assumes a general preference.

If you're asking 👉 this 👈 Arch user, the answer is "NONE".

EDIT: The majority of users, especially experienced ones, don't enable pkgstats. So such stats always end up in some form of self-selection (biased towards users who would use a DE in this case).

[-] imecth@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

The majority of users, especially experienced ones don't enable pkgstats.

Why would an experienced user not enable pkgstats? Anyways the biggest bias here is that arch inherently caters to power users which are going to have very different needs and likes than regular people.

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[-] coriza@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Openbox for me. Going strong since my early days on Ubuntu when one release Unity had a memory leak that wast just too much for my 2GB of RAM. I had already being flirting with Openbox and that was the cue to finally use it for good. When I migrated to archlnux it was a no brainier.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

If you ever want to try Wayland, check out LabWC.

[-] coriza@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I will definetly do at some point. But last time I looked into LabWC they were not implementing some of the actions that I use. I guess I can adapt but even recently I started to use some key chains and is a shame that LabWC has no intention to implement it.

Apart from that It would be nice if they implemented an alternative format for the config files, because that is one drawback of Openbox, the XML config is really rough to do and to read.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Weirdly, my Arch System has a bog-standard absolutely uncustomized kde plasma install.

Its the Debian system which has been customized to hell and back with i3 and lxqt. I'd like to switch to sway but my gpu does NOT like wayland.

[-] roran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Sway. Though I graduated from Arch to NixOS, sway remains as one of the core tenets of my personhood.

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