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Valve: HDMI Forum Continues to Block HDMI 2.1 for Linux (www.heise.de)
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The HDMI Forum, responsible for the HDMI specification, continues to stonewall open source. Valve's Steam Machine theoretically supports HDMI 2.1, but the mini-PC is software-limited to HDMI 2.0. As a result, more than 60 frames per second at 4K resolution are only possible with limitations.

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[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Console manufacturers all just need to switch to displayport to encourage tv manufacturers to do the same. No one's going to not buy a ps6 or steam machine because they have to use a little dp-hdmi adapter, but they might be a little more likely to choose a tv that doesn't need an adapter over one that does

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

Sony would probably create a proprietary standard before they'd switch to displayport.

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

What about shipping an adaptor? DP to HDMI for the transition?

[-] dovahking@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Phone companies succeeded in killing 3.5mm audio port with that strategy. So why not, for once, use it for a good cause?

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[-] tty5@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

HDMI Forum has fewer than 80 members and membership fee is 15,000 USD/year. Valve could spin up 80 companies, have them join the forum for a low low price of 1.2M USD and outvote remaining members to open source the entire spec.

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

This is hilariously plausible. Someone SCUBA down to Gabe and give him the idea.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

dives to 50 feet, removes tube from mouth to shout to Gabe, and fucking drowns

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

FWIW (and I know it's not the joke...) it's perfectly fine to remove the mouth piece while scuba diving. In fact it's part of basic training. You should be able to remove the mouth piece and take another one, your octopus or the one of your buddy, in case there is an incident.

No... the real question for a good diver is how the heck you're going to say HDMI 2.1 with hand signs! /s

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[-] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago

rofl, I hate billionaires but this would be peak trolling

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Does it have to be companies? Could individual people just have 15k, and join? We just need 81 new members.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately it not only has to be companies, but unless you are a producer of products that are HDMI certified already your membership will be denied. It would take a lot of fuckery to make that many corporations and not have all of their membership applications be denied. Also I'm not sure that it's even a voting democracy in the traditional sense even if you could.

[-] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Don't you just need to setup a run of HDMI devices and have 80 companies invest together as a group for manufacturing, then have each company put their own sticker on it.

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[-] Shoshin@aussie.zone 24 points 3 months ago

Are people just forgetting it has a displayport also? Just ignore HDMI, they got greedy, onto the rubbish pile they go.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

The people who block HDMI for Linux are also the people who make TVs and other media stuff. So you may not be able to use displayport or hdmi just because some rich people decided so to make more profit.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 15 points 3 months ago

This is what I said the other day about this issue. Good luck finding a decent tv with display port! Those fuckers are rare and expensive!

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 7 points 3 months ago

They are called monitors, and yeah expensive but then you don't get a "Smart TV" with tracking and bullshit.

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I recently watched a video about HDMI. I didn't hate HDMI but now I kinda do.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ga8WOONU12k

[-] wavebeam@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately most standards bodies are pretty much this stupid though. Blu-ray, DVD, USB, hell even codecs like H265 and MP3 have governing bodies that are mostly enterprises enforcing their collective power on standards. That’s good in ways because it means they all have to decide on a standard that’ll work wihh to pretty much anything, but bad because they can also enforce bullying like HDCP onto consumers.

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[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 7 points 3 months ago

HDMI, what's that ?

sent from my DisplayPort monitor

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 months ago

We need more DisplayPort in the world - and better support for multi-monitor setups under Linux.

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

https://hdmiforum.org/members/

AMD is part of the forum but can't get them to accept their own open source driver. I guess we can't complain or shame all of them in one. I wonder who voted reject vs accept.

Sad.

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[-] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's $1.2M to gain majority share on the HDMI board, but it sure would be nice if someone gave $1.2M to one of the engineers with access to that cryptographic DRM keys for the binary to "apparently get hacked" and have the keys magically appear online.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I wish I could buy hardware without HMDI at all so they got no money from me.

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