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[-] DempstersBox@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

when i was younger and stupid and in the (glass) closet i was dating the son of a pharmacologist. this man had made millions developing medications. he was fond of me and privately told me i was too funny and smart to be dating boys.

he also said that it was incredibly unlikely that sexism will ever be resolved in the medical field. that the majority of medications i will ever take - even some of which are "for women" - will not be clinically tested on my body.

the problem, he said, was in getting any human clinical trial approved.

to test on a body with a uterus - any body, even elderly patients or those who have been sterilized - was often nigh-impossible, because the concern was that the test patient may, at any point, become pregnant.

once/if the patient became pregnant, the study would not be about "the effects of New Medication on the body."

instead, the trial would fail - the results would be "the effects of New Medication on a developing fetus/pregnant patient."

it was massively easier, he said, to just test without accounting for a uterus.

that's how he phrased it - accounting for a uterus.

at the time, i remember him talking about the ethical implications of testing on a developing fetus; how such testing could theoretically bankrupt a company if a lawsuit was filed. he talked about informed consent and about how long it took for any legislation to be passed about this -

  • that in 1993; the year i was born, it finally became illegal to outright exclude women and minorities from clinical trials.

i remember him shrugging. "that's not to say it doesn't happen," he said. my ears were ringing.

i was thinking about how every time i have been rushed to the ER, the first thing they have asked me is if i am pregnant.

when i broke my wrist at 16 years old - despite never having had sex - they made me wait three hours for the test to come back negative before they gave me pain meds. the possibility of a child haunts my health.

how many people have died on the table because they were waiting for the pregnancy test before treatment.

how many people have died on the table because they were pregnant, and the only thing we care about is the fetus.

it is hard to explain to other people, but it feels like some kind of strange ghost. our entire lives, we are supposed to "save" our bodies for our future partners. but really we are just saving the body for the future child, aren't we? that hovering future-almost that cartwheels around in a miasma. you can't get your tubes tied, what if you change your mind? think of the child you must have, eventually. who cares about you and your actual safety. think about what you could be carrying.

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[-] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is just blatantly false, men's rights do vary wildly state by state. I get what this is saying and I agree with the message but presenting a good message behind a lie doesn't make it any less of a lie.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am also very supportive of women's rights but lying is not helpful.

Honestly the point that it tries to make is not the point that it makes either. It could be understood as "let's ban abortion everywhere", and I don't think that is the point that it tries to make.

I am in favor of bodily autonomy and I don't care what the law currently is anywhere, it should be a given.

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I am also very supportive of women's rights but lying is not helpful.

Worth knowing: although they attract a lot of anti-feminist losers, the "men's rights" activists are absolutely correct that men do not universally have the same support programs or even legal presumptions that women do. These can vary widely from state to state and even from court to court.

It's not nearly as big an issue as "they want her to die from a miscarriage", but "they presume he's the inferior parent" or "they presume he caused the violence even if he's the one bleeding" are also sexist oppression.

(Comparisons to the anti-woke "all lives matter" bullshit are apt -- men can and should recognize that relatively minor slights and injustices are not nearly as urgent as denying pregnant humans life-saving care!)

[-] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, the vast majority of these are societal standards and not rights, they are still absolutely important and we need to do more for equality both for women and for men, but strictly speaking they are not by definition rights.

But I am in agreement with you that I think a lot of why the younger generation are being pulled in the wrong direction is because men, of which I am one, have not done enough to create an environment that addresses issues that primarily affects men in a way that is not based on misogyny.

Don't get me wrong, the alt-right have absolutely tried to exacerbate these issues (either knowingly or unknowingly) and use them for their own gains, but we as a society have also not prioritized emotionally healthy solutions and that has led us to where we are.

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if you're going to be pedantic then you're sort of right. however, no state bans men from potentially life saving medical procedures when you need them.

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[-] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed, this message makes a valid point with good intentions, but it will likely face harsh criticism from misogynists - without actually achieving anything meaningful.

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[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Here in Tennessee, if I get a boner in public (fully clothed), it’s indecent exposure and I can be arrested.

That’s not the case in most states.

Granted, I doubt it’s a common issue, but I’m a nerd and saw a claim that’s technically wrong, so here I am.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago

Men's rights very much do differ by state but not anywhere near as significant

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Amendment 2 varies by state county city. But not by sex. Lots of rules are state wise, not federal

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ignirtoq@feddit.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

The right to bear arms.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yup.

We live in a country where if I get in the car with my girlfriend on the west coast and drive to the east coast, she gains and loses basic human rights multiple times before we reach our destination and nothing changes for me.

We can't even treat our women with respect. Trash nation. Full stop.

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[-] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago

Unless those men are black, Hispanic, or neurodivergent.

[-] DempstersBox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

You realize those prejudices get compounded, right?

What's the name of that highway in canada, where they raped and murdered and dumped the corpses of native women?

Never a lead on any of those cases. I don't think one was male, but hey, maybe there were a couple

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[-] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

If a right varies from state to state, it’s not a right, it’s a conditional privilege.

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[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Try not to "but what about men" challenge

Level: impossible

[-] ignirtoq@feddit.online 2 points 3 weeks ago

Men's rights to what, exactly? There are plenty of rights that affect men that vary state to state. Off the top of my head I can think of firearm rights that vary dramatically state to state. Or are we talking about rights exclusive to men because of different biology between men and women? I feel like other than a vasectomy, I'm not sure what other male-biology-related rights I have. Honestly there's less technology related to reproduction on the male side.

I get the point of the message, that there are rights women should be universally guaranteed that aren't, and I totally agree with that message. But the phrasing seems ambiguous at best.

[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yeah, firearm rights are definitely exclusive to men.

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[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

No states give men the right to not be a father. They're along for whatever ride the woman chooses

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right to abortion is body autonomy, not right to escape parenthood. Fetal death outside the womb is a byproduct.

Natural law, in its majestic equality, frees the sexes alike from the duty to carry unwanted occupants in their bodies. Men have equal rights to eject unwanted occupants from their bodies whenever that happens. Only by accident of nature are biological women regularly cursed with the burden to carry child.

As frivolous as that may naively seem, it's a serious argument: don't blame natural rights for natural differences.

Repression of right to abortion should concern non-women, too: if they ever find their bodies hooked up to sustain someone's life and want to discontinue that, the courts might deny them.

[-] audible_obituary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Men have the right to use birth control or get a vasectomy

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