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Bitwarden lite self-host deployment, formerly unified, is now generally available! This self-host option is a more lightweight and flexible deployment alternative, ideal for homelab enthusiasts and community members who want to get started quickly with self-hosting Bitwarden. With the release of general availability, Bitwarden lite users can benefit from enhanced performance and reliability.

Seems to be an official alternative to Vaultwarden

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[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 26 points 3 months ago

Wonder what's the reasoning behind offering this Lite version. I don't imagine competing with Vaultwarden is very lucrative financially.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, fair take, but sometimes more thoughtful and forward-looking companies aren't looking for fast return on investment.

It could be argued similarly for Valve that all their investment in Linux ecosystems and open source in general when Linux desktops account for just over 3% of all desktop installations while Windows sits comfortably at 70% of the desktop market, just isn't a lucrative investment.

While in the long-term it frees Valve from the restrictions of the Microsoft environment and from the risk that Microsoft would make it more and more difficult for Steam to integrate as they try to make their own game store and Game Pass the premiere gaming experience on Windows, those are future risks that are speculation, even though they are rational speculation.

Investing so deeply in open source isn't a lucrative thing for Valve to be doing, but they're looking at long-term goals.

In other words, I could see the goal here being something like protecting the Bitwarden brand and making sure more people are using their official client than unofficial with the goal of making it easy to use and enticing people into the general Bitwarden ecosystem long-term. Ten years from now, people who have been running Bitwarden Lite might have a lot more options for integration and paid services than people simply using Vaultwarden.

Is that lucrative? No, but it's still pursuing brand-name dominance and keeping people officially within their ecosystem as a way to grow userbase and give users more features (including paid ones) that may not be immediately available or easily integrated with Vaultwarden.

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Forward thinking venture capital funded companies are getting rarer, hence the question on motivation. Especially the last few years many VC Foss companies have squeezed harder the other way (gitea, Terraform, docker). So all kudos to BitWarden for launching Lite.

What you say a about brand dominance, or brand protection makes a lot of sense. It's not a good look for them that a large number of people choose to use an unofficial implementation instead of theirs. And should there ever be a catastrophic security issue with Vaultwarden, it would still reflect bad on BitWarden as that kind of nuance (like "unofficial server side implementation") tend to get lost in reporting. Having more IT workers self-host official version probably also helps pave the way for bringing enterprise-bitwarden to companies.

Valve are a bit of a unicorn though, because they are privately owned. There's no investors demanding ROI the next quarter, which gives them freedom to think long term.
When Microsoft launched windows8 and the Microsoft Store, Valve took that as an existential threat to their whole business model (the Steam store). Valve feared that Microsoft was trying to position itself like Apple on iOS and Google on Android, where there is only one platform store, and all apps are purchased through the platform store, and the platform store takes that sweet sweet 30% cut. So Valve pivoted to ensure the Steam store would not be obsolete, and give customers a reason to still use the Steam store. And what they achieved is awesome, for Linux, for Valve and for gamers. But it took nearly a decade, which is a level of patience few companies have.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 22 points 3 months ago

It's probably not but if all the system admins are using vault warden at home then they may consider using vaultwarden at work and that would cost bitwarden money.

[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

VaultWarden has contributors working on paid BitWarden features. For instance I've been following the LDAP PR for a while now. If they pull users away, they may have users who are unaware when those features release.

That being said, I won't complain when for-profit companies based on FOSS support self-hosters. It's good for the industry.

Edit:

This is why I won't switch to it, though:

My homelab only has one home to phone, and it's not someone else's home.

[-] klangcola@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

Yikes, are those required? Looks very rug-shaped, perfect for pulling things. Or not. Who knows?

[-] yes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 months ago

Does anybody have any information on features / licensing?

Looks like it's basically a more lightweight self-hosting option with better db flexibility compared to the traditional deploy.

Based on the limited information available I assume it has the same feature-set as the old server and requires a license to unlock all features (e.g. TOTP support). For those comparing it to Vaultwarden.

[-] bisby@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

I switched to vaultwarden back when it was bitwarden_rs due to the crazy overdone bitwarden docker setup.. and then started using some of the licensed features. I have a home organization that I use to share passwords with my family. So now I can't switch back to bitwarden official (even lite) unless they provide me a way to handle that.

I'm not opposed to paying them, but I am opposed to subscriptions for access to something I'm hosting on my own server. So a subscription license isn't happening. I don't see a reason to leave vaultwarden at this point

[-] yes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

Compared to other subscriptions their family plan is very fair. IIRC they even allow commercial use (small companies).

But yeah, I get your sentiment. Still a good option if vendor support is important.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The Bitwarden family plan has been one of the best expenses (if you want to call it that, because it really isn't that expensive) in our family.

[-] kratomara@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's a lightweight self-hosted option for home and small businesses. Otherwise the licensing options are the same as in other self-hosted options.

[-] eli@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I like Bit warden for someone like my mom, but I have my keepass setup with sync thing and 2fa and I'm beyond happy with that. Simple and effective.

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 11 points 3 months ago

Same here. I have KeePass database set to read only by default on my phone. This minimizes the risk of conflict and I add new passwords on my desktop most of the time.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

I don't trust my setup for something like this.

My server and NAS go down in a fire, and I'm not gonna have the key I need to get the backup so I can restore my password manager lol

[-] abeltramo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

The nice thing about Bitwarden is that all vaults are locally saved on every device where you access it. So even if your NAS, server and whole house burn in fire you still have all the keys on your phone.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That is true for a single person - but in a multiple person household that would mean that everyone needs to carry a copy of their with them. So this mechanism is no replacement for a solid backup of the server somewhere else…

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No? Everyone who uses the bitwarden app or browser extention has a local copy of the database that is used for read operations. You can't disable this so everyone who uses bitwarden can still use their passwords even if the server dies.

[-] ammonium@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Unless your phone also burns down together with the house, which is not unlikely

[-] abeltramo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The point: .

You

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago

That's good, if at least one surviving synced device survives then you still have access. Still a big "if" in a catastrophe, but a much better proposition.

What is the data retention policy for the local vaults?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

You'd need a good backup somewhere. But that's the same for bitwarden cloud. You cannot just assume it will never have issues

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

No, my problem is that I need my password manager to access my backup, and I need my backup to get my password manager.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago

That is a bad setup then. Not an issue of the software or hardware.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Probably worth storing the key in another place as well, like keepass on your phone or just print it out on paper and store it.

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