I always thought it was really swell of God to set aside a special place in hell for people that were born to early. Such a thoughtful, and loving guy.
I mean, it's not Christian canon. It's effectively Dante's big old bible fanfiction.
Don't think the bible addresses it at all. "Only way to be saved is through Jesus. Oh, he was after your time so you're just fucked."
True. Christian canon is that god is all powerful, and all loving, but if you don't literally worship him, he will punish you for eternity.
In the original Greek text Christ promises Aionic life, life through the end of the aion, or age. So, a long and full life but not eternal. Eternal life may be modern canon but it is texturally incorrect.
Cool, I'm talking about the old testament
Also originally written in Greek, maybe 100-200 years prior at most. What's your point?
My point is that Jesus didn't say anything in the Old Testament did he? So you're comment about what "Christ said" is irrelevant.
Sounds like a jealous bitchbaby if you ask me
Correct, but through cultural osmosis, a lot of The Divine Comedy has become indistinguishable from their actual beliefs or is just head-canon for people. (Its not like most of em read or understand their books anyway)
Plus, Dante was a mad lad and wrote a bunch of people he did not like (including 2 popes) into his funny hell fanfic.
I mean, if any of this were real, there would absolutely be popes who ended up in hell.
Oh 100%
The history and context of its writing is half the fun. Its a spite filled romp through a roman flavored cross-polinated afterlife. There are tons of things that modern bible folk would whinge at if you point out the hipocracy. Like how they discount all previous pantheons, yet characters from greek and roman myth canonically are present in Inferno, Chiron is not only alive in ring 7, he is also gainfully employed peppering arrows at one souls attempting to leave one of hells many boiling water features. Its all one grand myth, polytheism, monotheism, its all connected through stories humans tell themselves.
If you beleive its sources are real, you do you, I dont judge. If you dont, thats good too, but remember a majority of the people on this planet do and are less likely to act with logic and reason as a primary prerogative. Its handy to know their lore so you know what to say to get them to leave you alone.
I’m not super familiar with Dante, though I’ve heard that name a million times. Is a lot of Christian mythology based on Dante’s interpretation?
Not defending Christianity, but in most Christian traditions the sins of children are that of their parents in the eyes of god until their coming of age (i.e. a bar or bat mitzvah for Jewish people). So all children would go to heaven automatically until that age.
Modern western supply side Jesus Christianity has kinda devolved into a weird form of Zoroastrianism.
I'd rather be in limbo forever then to learn theology and have to live on the sun.
ICE in the deepest pit of hell, next to Lucifer, got it.
Back in the good old days of Christianity where usurers (people who lend money for interest ie proto-capitalists) we're on the same level as warmongers and psychopaths in the lowest rungs of hell instead of exalted as captains of industry on the same level as the warmongers and psychopaths who run this country.
Cursed flatterers! You deserve more punishment than serious criminals.
Messed up that using magic tricks to pick up women will put me below warmongers.
Does this imply that "theological virtue" is Uranus?
I often see references to this in modern movies and television. Makes me wonder what kind of stories written today will be used in future generations.
What future?
All of them because AI will be used for all future stories.
ice?
The idea was that the heart of Hell was cold because it was the furthest from Gods love.
so gods love is hell because its hot like hell?
If you want a religion that follows conventional laws of thermodynamics, Christianity is not for you.
which religion follows thermodynamics?
Scientology of course!
ah, that makes sense
Scientologists don't actually follow science in any meaningful way. Their way of thinking is to follow the leader and ask no questions.
If you really wanted to talk about thermodynamics in religion, I'm sure there's some nerdy pastor out there who can relate creation to entropy.
While we understand today that the further down into earth you dig the hotter it gets, in the middle ages people would dig root cellars to keep things cold so perhaps they understood the easily accessible parts of the depths as colder than the surface.
For sure. Gotta make sure people don’t immigrate from the other circles.
that makes sense
Misers and spendthrifts both being in hell really does leave a very specific window for how much money you're allowed to spend in life.
Bring back dunking userers in boiling blood!
Needs a drawing of a pretty lady in a halo of radiant light, with the label “Beatrice”
The traitors were stationed underneath Satan. So they could catch his leavings.
Dante seems kind of like I interpret Tokien being. Another guy with just way too much time on his hands.
This shit is so stupid. It’s genuinely tragic that grown adults believe these things still.
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