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  1. You love giving your data away
  2. You enjoy being tracked by your operating system
  3. You’re happy when your computer tells you “no”
  4. You prefer someone else deciding what you can run
  5. You feel uncomfortable if you get to have options
  6. You’d rather battle corporate tech support
  7. You’d rather rent your software than own it
  8. You think ads belong on your desktop
  9. You love being lied to about what’s “industry standard”
  10. You like rebooting for every little update
  11. You’re uncomfortable when software is transparent
  12. You think community-made tools can’t be “professional”
  13. You want intrusive AI everywhere, whether it helps or not
  14. You think the command line is only for hackers
  15. You never really wanted your computer to be yours anyway
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[-] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago
  1. You own an AMD GPU and want to use your fancy HDMI 2.1 monitor / TV
[-] Farnsworth@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Most of these are not about the Linux kernel, but about distro / personal choice. Android tracks you and doesn't make you use the command-line a lot. Fedora / Ubuntu (and others?) like to reboot for every little update.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I've had Fedora encourage me to reboot, but I don't think I've ever had it do so without consent (excluding when my laptop battery died).

[-] jimerson@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

CachyOS suggests a reboot but also doesn't demand.

[-] baconmonsta@piefed.social 12 points 14 hours ago

This article likely came from a very sad and self-righteous place

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Shh we're trying to circlejerk here! Keep your voice of reason down and grab some lotion

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

I enjoy the snark, but also agree it's condescending. Folks, take it as cynical humor, and don't be so harsh.

Anyway I commented to say that #10 is creeping into at least some distributions.

My Ubuntu sends security updates that frequently impact system libraries and thus demands (politely) a reboot.

Gnome software does it all the time, but a regular "check for updates" will often install without demanding reboot. I suspect the update won't be in effect until reboot, though.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is exactly the kind of shit that keeps people from switching to Linux y'all know that right?

[-] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah no its cos it breaks all the time.

[-] vandsjov@feddit.dk 21 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I read this as: YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID, I AM MUCH BETTER THAN YOU

That is really a good way to communicate.

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[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

And here I was, thinking this was a well thought out article with actual, legitimate reasons why someone wouldn't want to use Linux. Instead, it's this smug, autofellating, condescending bullshit. Roland Taylor has some issues.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 hours ago

I mean, #6 is accurate for me. I don't have a humiliation fetish, so I'd rather pay people to tell me what I'm doing wrong instead of braving the barrage of belittlement that comes from asking for crowdsourced support.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

And that's completely valid and fair. Different strokes for different folks, as they say. But I do have to stress that I'm not so much criticising the bullet points as I am the general tone of the article. #6 should read like your reply, but instead it feels like the reader should feel bad for not wanting support from humans as opposed to an automated system.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago

Oh, I understand. I was trying to snarkily imply that the smug, autofellating, condescending attitude you mentioned was unfortunately endemic, to the point where it's starting to feel like some people are secretly jorking it while telling newbs they suck. I think it's a huge reason why people feel like FOSS isn't for them.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

#3 is what does it for me. There are few things more enraging than something I own refusing to do what I'm instructing it to do.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a long time linux user, antagonizing people who are unsure if the switch is right for them is very clearly a poor interpersonal choice that will not result in the change we wanna see in the world, or more people adopting linux

Fuckin seriously, we can do better than this circle jerk. As someone who cares deeply about software being kinder to people it pains me enormously how much of a dump stat interpersonal skills are for so much of the Foss community

If the authors wanna pat themselves for linux they can do it without creating a unempathetic, condescending, preachy culture that alienates people.

Just call the article "things we love about having switched to linux" so it finds the right audience and its fine, but this shit sucks and its exactly the kind of crap that has made so many of my friends resistant to hearing what I think is good and special about Foss software. They hear me out anyway, but I'd love for it to not be a fucking uphill battle because Foss people routinely emulate the same preachy, condescending, unempathetic interpersonal apprach that everyone bemoans about the worst vegan spaces online

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Your points are valid, and if I saw this on a site like pcmag, medium or whatever, i would totally be on the same page. Still, how many "on the fence" people are likely to be here, on Lemmy, subscribed to a linux forum?

I chose to take it as snarky humor for the "in crowd". Benefit: keeps my blood pressure manageable.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

My thoughts were more about the article itself than it being posted here. Being an article it could really easily be something that comes up when someone is trying to figure out whether they can make the switch and are doing their research on pros and cons

I think personally I also just really don't enjoy snarky in-group humor, it feels like it often just fosters resentment for those outside of the ingroup. So I do kinda have a bias in general

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[-] verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone 81 points 1 day ago

This is just masturbation.

No, because at least with masturbation, you have something to show for it at the end.

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's just a list of pro Linux items but in reverse psychology... Kay.

I'm already a Linux user, I was kinda curious about a listing of actual reasons Linux might not be for someone.

Not just reverse psychology, I can't imagine anyone agreeing with most of these. It's definitely got a holier-than-thou attitude. Like who is this even written for other than people who already use Linux and just want to feel smugly superior?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago

Linux users? Being holier than thou? Say it ain't so!

I use arch btw

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[-] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

actual reasons:

  1. want to use some specific program or game only available for another os
  2. lazy, dumb or afraid of computer stuff.
  3. can’t decide from 10,000 different distributions
[-] vandsjov@feddit.dk 6 points 1 day ago

You forgot the real actual reason: I don't care about computer stuff. My current computer does what I want and I don't care to switch.

It is okay not to have the interest in computers. I could probably change the oil on my car but I don't care and don't want to do the work, so I don't do it (the mechanic does).

[-] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

that’s just another word for lazy

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[-] muzzle@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Back on the 90s (I know, I know) the joke was that of your VCR was still blinking 12:00 Linux was probably not for you.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe this was true then, but my microwave never once knew what time it is

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Same, too many clocks, all getting out of sync, and some on power strips that get turned off periodically.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

If you have a job or are student you'll know that using Linux usually results in a direct increase in corporate tech support battles.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

... On the desktop. It's de rigeur for servers.

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm aware, but that's not what this article is about.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Please, article writer, be a little more passive-aggressive.

[-] BuckWylde@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

This is exactly the kind of shit that turns people off.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

"Well if you don't buy this car you are a moron who can't see how much better this car is. So keep driving that piece of shit car you dumbass. So, have I sold you on this car?"

[-] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago
  1. You start making weird passive aggressive lists to shame people into your preferred.....whatever...
[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago
  1. You can't be trusted with keeping your desktop secure (because Linux sure as hell won't do that for you).
  2. You need software that can't run on Linux even via compatibility tools (Multiplayer AAA games don't count).
  3. You have access to extended security updates for Windows 10.
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[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sorry but AI is coming to Linux too so fear the 13^th^ 🤣

[-] hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

Its a choice on Linux.

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