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The monument was unveiled in December 2024 after a more than one year-long postponement.

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[-] jaselle@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

So am I misunderstanding or is the problem that the set of "victims of communism" setminus the set of all fascists is too small and fuzzy to be a Schelling point people can agree on?

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anti-communism hits weak now that overt fascism and genocide have become mainstream. EoD they wanted to commemorate their nazi predecessors.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

More formally known as The Stephen Harper Victims Of Communism Memorial.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

That son of a bitch fucked Canada up bad.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

Because they're all nazis?

Because they're all nazis.

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

I don't think communism would ever work, but let's call a spade a spade... They were victims of dictatorships and tyranny.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also USSR/China were both socialist states run by communist parties. There has never been a communist country; only countries run by communist parties.

[-] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

You're splitting hairs, no state can be communes by definition so it's a moot point. The term "communist country" is a colloquialism refers to centrally planned socialist states that have or had a stated goal to one day achieve communism. There's no point in getting riled up about it.

I honestly think that if every self-identified leftist decided to spend 365 contiguous days without voicing even one opinion that involves semantics, we would end up with a net benefit to the cause because it wouldn't be actively damaged for a change.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

There's no point in getting riled up about it.

Than chill. I was just corroborating that they weren't victims of communism.

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There has never been a communist country; only countries run by communist parties.

They were “communist” just as much as North Korea is “democratic”.

Just because a word exists in a name, doesn’t mean that the word actually applies in any fashion whatsoever. The political parties of both the USSR and China were as communist as fish are birds. Which is to say, absolutely not. They wore “communism” as a thin veneer of legitimacy over a bulwark of feudalistic authoritarianism.

And the real clue is in the name: Communism. Communal. No real leaders aside from administrative functionaries. Classless and cooperative. Everything that the USSR and China never was.

Edit: Russia became communist in 1917. By every metric with which you could possibly measure communism, it was dead by 1918.

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