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[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I would like yo see one for victims of capitalism

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Tbf, i dont think they could name all of the African American slaves or the millions killed in the DRC.

You know the drill: Ukrainian starvation genocide = crime of communism.

When the Turkish capitalist empire does the same to Armenians, that's just one of those things. Feels kinds commie though.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I never count the many crimes of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao as crimes of communism. Because Lenin betrayed the revolution and had the actual communists arrested so that he could cement his totalitarian dictatorship.

He lost the November 1917 election, and threw a hissy fit that caused a civil war.

Which started a long line of dictators pretending to be communists, pretending that communism requires a dictatorship.

If the State owns everything, and has police that will kill you for speaking out, then you don't live under communism, you live under feudalism in a coat of red paint.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You have been banned from .ml

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Actually... Yes, but only for saying that Julian Assange isn't a hero to be worshiped.

He had a good idea, but his ties to Russia taint everything.

Per the fact that he's repeatedly turned down leaks critical of Russia.

There's a certain type of person who strongly believes in binaries. They rightly see that the US is shit, and somehow believe that makes anyone who "stands up to the US" automatically good.

It's half of the Tankie mentality. The other half is actively cheering for dictators and the murder of "non-conformists", whatever shape they take.

On a final note, https://ddosecrets.com/ is what WikiLeaks looks like with protections for innocents mentioned in the leaks.

WikiLeaks has such a policy, but have leaked names of activists and whistleblowers several times now.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

👍

I’ve had this thing hanging out for years and NOTHING. If you humans could stop bashing each other with sticks and screaming at each other about bathrooms long enough to build a proper ship to go out and socialize, we can find more civilized planets and just do drugs and laugh and laugh about stupid little green pieces of paper.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That's the neat part, you're already in it!

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

You can even cut costs by installing a mirror

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I clicked on this thinking it was a picture of a stick of ram

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Also, Stephen Harper, the prime minister responsible for this thing, said it would be paid entirely with private donations. Well, that was a lie, so now tax dollars are funding the thing. Which means some of my money went to this horseshit.

[-] join@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The symbolism is hilarious.

Bunch of mouth-foaming rightwing ideologues spending all their political capital on a monument directly implying that there are no victims of communism.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Should be victims of authoritarianism

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

If you visit Eastern Europe, you'll find a lot of museums which reflect on the double disaster of Nazi occupation for years followed by Communist occupation for decades.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Why do we have monuments for victims of communism and not monuments for victims of capitalism?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 5 months ago

Because capitalism is the normal order of things going back for millennia.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago

Millennia? Fuck off. Capitalism in itself is barely a few hundred years old. Use of a designated tender (money) is NOT capitalism.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 5 months ago

Then what is it?

Seriously, people use a million definitions, and unlike with socialism tend to slide between them fluidly.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago

There's a pretty clear description:

Capitalism is an economic system where private individuals or corporations own the means of production (like factories, land, and resources) and operate them for profit, driven by market competition and supply/demand with minimal government interference, emphasizing private property, capital accumulation, and wage labor to generate wealth and economic growth.

Emphasis mine.

But yeah, the primary goal of capitalism is to extract as much wealth ("profit") as possible while reducing the number of people that wealth/profit benefits.

Up until the industrial revolution, almost all means of production was in the hands of the upper class (as per European/British definition of the term) - landed gentries, landowners, and the aristocracy (the three groups generally overlapping). The revolution itself allowed certain people to climb the social class ladder and become business owners (prior to that, most businesses were traders, merchants) and set up factories to manufacture much needed items.

So up until that point, capitalism as a system didn't really exist, not even in the US (up until that time, most of the US were private landowners who just wanted to eke out a life for themselves on new land, sans gold rushes and such). In fact I'd argue that the capitalist mindset of the US didn't really kick in until WW1, or rather, the handful of wars preceding it, mostly in Africa and South America, which provided an opportunity for US weapons makers to grow the industry beyond the country - and it really kicked off during WW1, then got raised to new heights in WW2.

Also, an integral part of capitalism is the beneficiaries lying to those who actually produce the value, the wealth, the profit, to keep them in line. One such lie is that capitalism existed for millennia, when in reality, the true forn of capitalism is mere 100-150 years old.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Barely 200 years, but good effort.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Ah, yes. It's the first system that freshly evolved monkeys created thousands of years ago. It must surely be the best system to stick with.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The General Committee of United Croats of Canada dedicated its contribution to Ante Pavelić, who led the Nazi puppet regime in occupied Croatia in the former Yugoslavia, where around 32,000 Jews, 25,000 Roma and 330,000 Serbs were murdered by the regime. The same organisation purchased a brick dedicated to Mile Budak, a high-ranking official in Croatia’s fascist Ustaše organisation, whom it identified simply as a poet.

Of course it was anti Yugoslavia Balkan bullshit. Chetniks(if you're a Serb expat) and Ustaše(if you're a croat expat) did nothing wrong if your ideology must delegitimize the idea of a multicultural Yugoslav state.

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