[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The Suffragists were a group of men and women including MPs who worked within the political system of peaceful negotiation and consensus-building over many years, and had made some gains.

The Suffragettes were a paramilitary organisation tightly controlled by Emmeline Pankhurst, and rejected the involvement of men (and working-class women).

The cause of women’s suffrage was advanced by the Suffragists, but once the Suffragettes started burning, bombing and racially harassing Jewish MPs, those gains were fatally undermined, and public opinion turned against women’s suffrage. In more than one occasion, entire towns turned out to burn down the local WSPU HQ as reprisal for a burned school, town hall or cricket pavilion. Red lines were crossed with the murder of two naval sailors and two attempts to assassinate the PM. If they’d had proscription then, they’d probably have used it.

Eventually Pankhurst lost interest, as her main passion was British imperialism and racial superiority, and her efforts pivoted towards press-ganging young men into the army and later entering very right-wing politics (not for nothing that many of the more famous suffragettes became fascists).

The cause was only revisited after WWI, based on the actions of women on the home front and the new demographic realities. It had little to do with the suffragettes who were still poorly received on either side.

It was a rewriting of history by a couple of propaganda books in the 1930s (largely ex-suffragettes trying to whitewash their crimes) that eventually led to the modern confusion between suffragettes and suffragists.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -4 points 10 hours ago

So the beheading of Lee Rigby wasn’t terrorism? Your definition doesn’t match the law or the dictionary.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 11 hours ago

The government didn’t make concessions to the Suffragettes either. The WSPU was a total failure.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 11 hours ago

Paint and crowbars. The engines will have to be stripped down and rebuilt.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

They were willing to commit mass murder in London and Dublin, and to assassinate the Prime Minister. Also deeply keen on removing all Jews from the House of Commons. Things that today would indeed mark them as a terrorist organisation.

Later, Emmeline Pankhurst would found a political party with the aim of requiring all civil servants to prove their racial purity back at least 3 generations, and many of the more prominent members of the WSPU became prominent members of the British fascist movement, several being detained as a precaution during the second European fuss.

As a campaign, the WSPU was an abject failure. It put women’s votes back a decade, and Pankhurst failed to ensure that working class women were excluded from the franchise (she also wanted working class men excluded).

It was only a cataclysm the scale of WWI, and the groundwork of the suffragists working in opposition to the suffragettes, which brought votes for all.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 14 hours ago

The Gestapo relied almost entirely on public informants. The Stasi had an extensive and qualitative surveillance apparatus.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 points 15 hours ago

The group in question broke onto an airbase and put a couple of RAF planes out of action. They crossed a red line for the government.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I’d argue the Stazi were far more effective than the Gestapo, and that German police stating peaked in the mid 1980s.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago

Amongst other things, the Suffragettes attempted to bury 200 postal workers under the rubble of the biggest sorting office in London, attempted to flood a town by blowing up a canal embankment, left many bombs on commuter trains (now they have a TfL line named after them lol), attempted to kill the Prime Minister by burning down the packed theatre he was in, tried again by burning down his house, attacked MPs for being Jewish, and succeeded in murdering sailors in an attack on a naval dockyard.

And then much of the top echelons of the Suffragettes went on to be key members in British fascism, including one who became Mussolini’s pen-pal, another who became the registered owner of the bank account for the BUF, and another who was actually too anti-Semitic for Oswald Moseley, and denied the Holocaust happened because “there’s so many of them still around”.

The Suffragettes are always a bad example because they utterly failed in their stated aims (the height of their campaign of destruction ended up one of the years with the lowest insurance payouts in British history), went on to say and do horrific things, and there is a question as to how much of it was true commitment to a cause and how much it was people who got off on the violence.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 points 2 days ago

He controls every contract by every Canadian business?

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General Motors' new Cadillac team gains final approval to join expanded grid from the 2026 season

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Buy a set of earplugs, maritime charity advises those hoping to sleep near Cornwall’s Longships Lighthouse

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Season two will officially launch on Saturday 12 April at 8am on BBC iPlayer and later that day on BBC One in the UK. At the same time, those outside of the UK can watch the Doctor and Belinda on their epic adventures on Disney+ where available.

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Season two will officially launch on Saturday 12 April at 8am on BBC iPlayer and later that day on BBC One in the UK. At the same time, those outside of the UK can watch the Doctor and Belinda on their epic adventures on Disney+ where available.

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Best known as MI5 agent Roddy in Slow Horses, Christopher Chung is joining the Whoniverse, meeting the Doctor (Ncuti Gatwa) and Belinda Chandra (Varada Sethu) for a thrilling adventure in the upcoming second season of Doctor Who, which will air this year.

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