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This is in India, but coming soon to a country near you (or the one you are in already).

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Always bad when the net policy is made by old people which confuse an remote control with an smartphone.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Ugh, so tired of this old argument. Nothing to hide doesn't mean everything to show. There, now let's get on with our lives.

That's the thing though...
...everyone has something to hide.

[-] redparadise@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Meanwhile we can't release the voter both footage because privacy of the voters, destroying Right to Information Act because privacy, if you have a lot of money then only do you start to need privacy after all!

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

I see a lot of "camera's in their bedroom" arguments.
That's a bit unfair, because the Indian government doesn't have camera's installed in your bedroom.

May I instead suggest to Indians to buy Huawei/ZTE phones, routers or camera's in your own bedroom that point outside to public places?
I mean the public has nothing to hide right?
Right?

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 16 points 15 hours ago

You have nothing to hide?

I used to work in advertising.

I was just doing my job, and striving to do it well, to the very best of my abilities, to serve my client, by maximally getting into your mind, manipulating you, manipulating your perceptions, your preferences, your purchases, by insidiously shaping your associations and implanting suggestions you would not realise happening.

This was over 20 years ago, before Bill Hicks saved me by telling me to kill myself, and I left advertising for good, promising to never do it again.

The things I would have done to you, without your ken, had I then had access to the data-mining available today... ... just the same as those who are still in advertising are doing to you now. [And the resources my team of 2 had, were miniscule, compared to those with millions and billions to invest, and we still managed to shape the culture and prevailing perceptions, so think what kind of influence they have...]

Nothing to hide?

Sure, let advertisers know everything about you, to ease their way playing you like a puppet without you realising.

Nothing to hide?

Why are you not walking around naked then? Just thermal regulation? Or to preserve your dignity? By preserving your privacy? Are you sure you have nothing to hide? If still sure, by all means, invite every perverted voyeur into your bathroom and bedroom and beyond.

You surely have at least two things to hide.

Not hiding them does not just harm you and cause you loss, it harms everybody else too. Your duty to poke big brother (or big baron or big bot or big blight or big bully or big bank) in the eye, is not just to yourself. It's to everybody, each and all.

You have much to hide.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago
[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 8 hours ago

It is almost incredible how advertising has contributed so goddamn much to the erosion of privacy. If data collection was used entirely to do things like improve aiding people (such as language learning. Many apps, like Duolingo and others absolutely use user data to improve their software and develop better ways of teaching languages) it wouldn't be so bad. But to sell people shit? That is just disgusting.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago

One of many countries who have recently decided that basic liberty is more trouble than it's worth. Our governments all just need to admit that we are engaged in informational WW3.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 12 hours ago

There is a problem... during ww2 we had the allies who fought against the Axis and eventually did want to enshrine basic freedoms (only for a few countries and selectively though). Who is fighting for us now?

[-] Faux@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago

China, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam...

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago

Fuck that. RFK wants me to work on his plantations for daring to be born with autism.

[-] Kjell@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

What about if a person working for the public sector contacts a journalist about corruption? Or if a nurse contacts a journalist on how bad a hospital (owned by public sector) is controlled? Are those things that are worth hiding? And how should a normal person hide it if everything is monitored?

And what about the future? Even if it is currently legal to be positive to radical ideas such as trans-people, immigration or environment, how will they ensure that a future government doesn't make one of those things illegal and then comes after people who endorsed the radical idea?

[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago

Why does this meth still persist? Do people not realise that you could be doing good but the government might not want you to?

[-] ksigley@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Myth* but the error is funny

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 14 hours ago

Ok so let's get those files and only redact the victims

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

A lot of countries are increasingly overreaching with privacy. There is global-wide coordination going on that we haven't seen since the leftist international during Cold War, but this time it's coming from the right.

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

Everyone should be bothered by surveillance, it ain't about wrongdoing, it's about further empowering the people who think us suffering and dying for their profits is perfectly acceptable.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm sure they're fine with a live camera stream of their bathroom and bedroom? If not, then they are hypocritical pieces of shit.

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Conservatives in the states have been saying exactly this for decades.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago

The Stasi said the same thing, and similar levels of surveillance are significantly cheaper now.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago

Fun fact: According to an ex-CIA spy, most spy gear that real spies use are bought directly off amazon and other online stores. While there are some guys who do craft custom items, they aren't nearly as common or as fancy as the James Bond films.

[-] MathematicalMagpie@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago

"Cheery was aware that Commander Vimes didn't like the phrase 'The innocent have nothing to fear', believing the innocent had everything to fear, mostly from the guilty but in the longer term even more from those who say things like 'The innocent have nothing to fear'." ― Terry Pratchett, Snuff

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 6 points 23 hours ago

Nothing to hide = nothing to show.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Oh dear god, I thought this was the US Supreme Court, which is bound by the 4th Amendment. Turns out this is the Supreme Court from the State of Telangana in India.

[-] peskypry@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago

It's the Supreme Court of India not Telangana which is a state in India.

[-] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I have a lot of things I want to hide from every single government.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago

Damn straight. I mean people in the US who live in states were weed is legal might end up crossing statelines to places where weed is still illegal. Also many people who live in countries that have either decriminalized or legalized drugs have forgotten that possession of those drugs in other countries is often very harshly punished.

I have seen multiple accounts of Canadians and Americans going into the UAE with medicinal THC/marijuana on them and not realizing that simple possession of any of that drug is punishable by up to life in prison there. There was a guy a long time ago who was jailed for a long time for literally a microscopic bit of weed on the sole of their shoes. That last one was some utter bullshit. I live in Canada and there are TONS of marijuana smokers and THC users here, I probably have stepped on more than one thing that has had THC or weed in it, so I might have some of the stuff on my clothes/shoes without even knowing it.

[-] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 128 points 1 day ago

I don't get why they never suggest making it completely public every email, phone call and bank transaction of politicians and judges then... also, please, force them to wear a chip so we can always know their location... it's ok to give it some hours of delay for security reasons, we just need to know where you have been to, no need to worry if you have nothing to hide.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 day ago

Of all the people in the world that need or should have it mandatory to have round the clock public surveillance ... it should be our political leaders

They claim to be working for the people ... yet the people never really know what the fuck these leaders are doing

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[-] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

"I have nothing to hide" is such a dumb argument.

Are you always going to have nothing to hide?

Because it'll be too late to start caring about privacy when you do.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 26 points 1 day ago

The problem is this: You don't know what you need to hide or that you even needed to hide it until it is too late.

Look at what is going on in the United States right now, LGBTQ rights are taking a massive beating. While hate crime laws are still in place, that is not a guarantee. Transpeople who revealed they are trans under safer conditions can't take that shit back when someone like Trump and his cronies are in power and abso-fucking-lutely will put transpeople in extermination camps.

I, like many people on many Lemmy platforms, have been anti-Trump for a very long time. I thought Trump was an absolute fool well before his 2015 bid for presidency and I was honest to god shocked that he was taken seriously and actually won! Now basically any criticism of Trump is being prosecuted and Trump critics can and have been violently attacked.

I made numerous posts all over the internet criticizing and mocking Trump. Many have been made using temporary email, but my OPSEC online was eased into, meaning there was a lot of stuff from the past that I used under 'real' emails. My facebook page, which I never wanted (my family made it for me without any concern of what I wanted many years ago) is still active even though I cannot remember the last time I logged in and posted, and it does contain anti-fascist, anti-Trump comments and posts. Deleting the FB page might make denial a little easier, but if they decide to demand any information from FB (who will comply without a warrant) they will see it.

Given that the United States WILL NOT 'go back to normal' once Trump kicks the bucket, there is no telling how the regime would use this data against its opponents.

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[-] melfie@lemy.lol 55 points 1 day ago

Years ago, I read about a guy who rode his bike past a house that was being robbed. The police acquired data from Google placing him in the area at that time. While he didn’t do anything wrong and had nothing to hide, I assume he had to hire a lawyer and go through a time-consuming and stressful process to prove his innocence. That was the turning point for me where I began focusing heavily on privacy.

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[-] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 day ago

Until they do. What is legal today could be illegal tomorrow.

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