Do it. I know which OS will run fine on 8G of RAM and which one won't.
I wouldn't be happy with 8 GB of RAM regardless of OS.
Nor would I, but if apps were actually optimized instead of the Electron nonsense we have now we'd be in a better place. I really hope this forces us to finally build better again instead of relying on infinite resources.
Maybe this will be a boon. The entire reason the ram requirements got so high as it is is because software optimization was put on the back burner. Maybe a ram shortage where people can't obtain the ram needed will force the big name software devs to start being more frugal with ram. (talking to you chrome... whom currently is using 2 gigs alone just trying to show a twitch stream...)
Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. "We would let you download the app, but most users don't have the computing power so instead we'll just make this a helpful subscription!"
Idk, trying to load up a couple spreadsheets in Edge is going to consume 8gb of Ram in no time.
At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them.
When discussing the pressures the company faces when releasing a game in early access, such as audience expectations, Vincke told us, "Interestingly, another [issue Larian is facing] is really the price of RAM and the price of SSDs and f**k, man. It's like, literally, we've never had it like this."
He continued, "It kind of ruins all of your projections that you had about it because normally, you know the curves, and you can protect the hardware. It's gonna be an interesting one. It means that most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn't necessarily want to do at that point in time. So it's challenging, but it's video games."
8 GB of RAM would be enough if every fucking application didn't use Electron.
Or web applications, Firefox/Chrome uses like 32 GB RAM and constantly crashes my computer because of it
8 GIGABYTES!!? How am I supposed to load a mouse driver in THAT!?
You don't need to load the mouse driver on your laptop. We have a subscription service for it!
Hah, guess they're gonna have to run Linux. Windows 11 would choke on 8 GB RAM.
It's neat that AI is already ruining the world in really tangible ways.
I speak on behalf of all IT Support personnel everywhere when I say "fuck you"
"WHY IS IT SO SLOW?!?!?!"
This wouldn't be much of an issue if most of the laptops nowadays didn't come with soldered in ram and no options of expanding.
Does midrange being at 8GB mean that entry level will be 4GB? because I know corpos are gonna be corpos.
(I don't think windows even run at 4GB lmfao)
Edit: Also, this RAM shortage might force people to use Linux 😁
Time to switch to Linux people lol. Windows is barely usable on 8GB these days.
Waaaayyy back in the day Dell had a real bad habit of limiting their low and midrange laptops to pitiful amounts of memory to stratify their product line even though the chipset might support more.
So RAM costs them more now, and they need to pass those costs onto customers. However, it seems like they’re also trying to redefine what “mid-range” means to us all, as if we aren’t fully aware of what computers are capable of and what amount of memory is good vs not. Making the various ranges cost more is intuitive. Enshitifying the ranges to sell them at the same price is just antithetical to the whole concept of the ranges…
It’s like if batteries got stupid expensive and they tried to tell us 200km of range is what you get in a touring EV these days. But the distances between all the places haven’t changed…
better start removing AI from Windows then... holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it's just raping the entire system performance constantly
lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.
For the price of 16GB?
More like for the price of 64GB.
For the price of 32GB, if you're lucky. Hopefully it's 8gb in a single stick so upgrading is cheaper, even if that means single channel ram speeds out of the box
Oh you sweet summer child. It will almost surely be soldered to the board so that you'll have to pay extra upfront or buy a new laptop if you want more RAM.
Soldered in, or upgradeable at least? The former would be a huge reason to never buy the newest gen of laptops.
EDIT: Missed in article, yeah this would suck if they stick to soldered RAM for ultra-thins.
Another problem manufacturers face is with notebooks that ship with soldered DRAM. In particular, ultrathin designs would need to be revamped to modify their configurations.
Those soldered low RAM ones are going to be in the dump a lot sooner.
Will they solder it?
They'll solder 4gb. So even if RAM prices go down, you're still effffed
Let's see how this plays out with windows 11 😄
Swap is a thing. It'll kinda suck, but not as much as it would have pre-nvme. Except that now there's an nvme shortage... and an SSD shortage.
Ugh, I guess I'll just put Windows 2000/ME on there to complete the retro look.
What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.
Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can't have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don't get a monthly cut of.
I wish this was sarcasm.
Windows 11 is actually unusable on 8GB RAM
mid-range laptops to 8GB
My not-terribly-new phone has 12GB of memory, and I'm pretty sure that Android is a lot lighter on memory than the Windows 11 that I suspect a lot of these are going to be running.
Don’t worry Microsoft will shove as much agentic AI bullshit into Windows 11 as they can, further ruining performance.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
Minimum system requirements for Copilot+ PCs
RAM: 16 GB DDR5/LPDDR5
I think that OpenAI has probably kind of bashed a hole in the bottom of Microsoft's boat on the local AI stuff, if 8GB is going to be midrange.
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