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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I would love to get behind the idea she was some kind of genius Andy Kaufman type, but she was just a narcissist who couldn’t stand not being the center of attention.

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[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Yoko Ono is a terrible fucking human being

Her "art" is absolute trash, in the worst sense. As in, she says it is art, but it is objectively garbage.

She treated people around her like shit.

Just read about how she handled the letters between John Lennon and his son.

Fuck that bitch. She rode the coat tails of someone who was an actual artist and the only discussion her "art" has created was whether or not it could be called art.

Seriously, she is trash.

[-] audible_obituary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

All art is subjective, imo. Just because you didn't like what she was doing musically doesn't mean it's automatically bad. Also, I think art that prompts a discussion around whether it's art or not is very, very important.

That said, I can't comment on her character, so I'll have to take your word on it that she was crappy to Lennon's kid / the people around her.

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When you’re interrupting your husband and Chuck Berry singing together by screeching into an adjacent mic impromptu when your only job was to play tambourine, your “art” is objectively bad.

And her reprehensible treatment of Lennon’z son is well documented, you can Google it.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That said, I can't comment on her character,

Yoko described herself as a bad mother who twice abandoned her child in search of fame.

https://www.imaginepeace.com/archives/10408#%3A%7E%3Atext=For+years%2C+Yoko+didn%27t%2C%27+And+he+was+right.%E2%80%9D

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Taking a shit in a zip lock bag, or duct taping a banana to a wall is not art.

It's fucking lazy, pretentious, bullshit.

A literal circle jerk.

Not everything has to be Monet or Robert Frost, but there HAS to be a vehicle of creation, a filter passing through the artist.

Screaming obnoxious sounds and saying it is singing, or placing a random object on a surface is not art or commentery, ESPECIALLY when the discussion is focused on "what is art".

Art can be proactive, controversial, or just a simple expression. But it has to have a purpose outside of "is it art?".

Otherwise everyone claiming AI slop is not art, is a hypocrite.

[-] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

Taking a shit in a zip lock bag, or duct taping a banana to a wall is not art.

The fact that you're upset about this kind of art means it's working :)

It’s fucking lazy, pretentious, bullshit.

You don't know the thought process that lead to it.


Now where did I put those ziplock bags?

[-] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

If you don’t know much about this person why are you arguing?

[-] audible_obituary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Because I think it's ridiculous to dismiss someone for having "bad art" when I don't really think that's a thing. I got no stake in the game, be upset about Yoko Ono if you want, but her art gets people talking and I think that's worth something.

[-] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

LMAO, there's no "bad art"? Ever saw a Hitler painting, Liefield's pouches, or a conservative movie production?

Saying "there's no bad art" is like saying there's no objectively bad tasting stuff. Which there is.

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[-] hissingmeerkat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

She rode the coat tails of someone who was an actual artist and the only discussion her "art" has created was whether or not it could be called art.

Who was this person? She performed Cut Piece in 1964 and '65 and didn't even meet John Lennon until '66.

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[-] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I don't know if she was a troll or a narcissist or whatever everyone else claims. But she did seem to be a little nuts, or at least tone deaf. You can see in that performance with John and Chuck Berry where she just starts sort of screeching in the background on mic for no reason she was at least a little unhinged.

You can call it avant garde, you can say she was annoying, etc. Etc. but she did seem to just shove herself into Johns limelight a lot. There are plenty of other spouses that are just happy to be with their partner, and go with them, but she clearly was intent on shoving herself into the spotlight with him, through whatever means she felt was accessible.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

but she clearly was intent on shoving herself into the spotlight with him, through whatever means she felt was accessible

Well, I mean yeah, she cowrote and performed with him frequently, they were musical partners as well.

If you think the one Chuck Berry video that's been memed to death is the extent of her creative contributions, you're simply ignorant.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago

If you weren't going to post it, I would have.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

I make Yoko Ono-quality art every single day of my life.

I just usually flush it, and haven't bothered trying to show other people since I was about 6.

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, this song is a shining example of how nonsensical and ugly her ‘music’ is.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I have no particular opinion on Yoko Ono, but the comments here are quite funny. 🍿

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 1 month ago

They're still mad about it 50 years later.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

... this appears to actually be a fairly popular/uncontroversial opinion/take, lol.

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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago
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[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

If you like some asshole entirely because other people find that asshole assholey, what does that make you?

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 1 month ago

Someone with an unpopular opinion

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Subjectiveness of art aside she's just a garbage person. Troll or not, whatever.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I'm kind of just ambivalent toward her. I don't think she deserves the hate that she gets. Her and John were clearly in love, so who the fuck am I to question that?

Her role in the breakup of the Beatles is absolutely blown out of proportion as well. They were already falling apart by that point, and if it hadn't been Yoko, it would have been someone/something else.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 1 month ago

I think its really interesting that an avant-garde artist who made pieces about provoking patriarchy is able to elicit intense misogyny decades later from people who are pretty unaware of anything about her other than media stories about John Lennon who was an abusive man.

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

It’s just more of the typical hippie boomer bullshit lol. They didn’t sell out, they were always buying product.

[-] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

the main reason reason the beatles broke up is they lost their orginal manger epstein (not JE epstein)

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

She is a complete POS. Just look at how she treated her step son.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not going to comment on the subjective nature of her shallow art, but the way she treated Julian Lennon was unforgivable.

She began cutting him out when John was still alive, and then fully cut him out of the estate when John died. He wanted some of his father's letters, but she forced him to buy them at auction. He eventually had to sue her, and eventually got a generous settlement, but he never should have had to go through all that.

You can blame John for not doing enough for his son, but we all know that Yoko was whispering poison in his ear like Wormtongue.

Nah, I'm not going to be one of her apologists. Yoko sucks.

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I learned recently that Yoko Ono was a huge inspiration for the B-52's. Apparently John Lennon once heard them playing (before they broke out in fame) and immediately recognized her style in their music.

I thought it was an interesting bit of trivia.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Just because something sucked, doesn’t mean it was a troll. Because while toy may not know this-

She wasn’t trolling.

And that’s why people fucking hate her.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 1 month ago

She had frizzy hair.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Same reason I love Jane Fonda

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

It depends where you live. All the boomers around me know about the Beatles, way less than John Lenon was a member of the band, and no one knows who Yoko Ono was.

[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I am sorry, but where could that be?
I would understand if not everyone knew Beatles there, that would be in sync with later statements. But "everybody knows, but doesn't know the details" is quite weird.

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