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In advance, I was not sure where to post this; OffMyChest, NoStupidQuestions or here. Decided to do it here because it is mainly a question. However, I thought it do be better explaining it a little as well.

When I was younger, I could not really get the luxuries I wanted. Just like many others, my parents did not have heaps of wealth to spend. I did not have it bad, got a roof above my head, education, food and such. Parents would spend on luxuries if they could. My siblings usually bought the more expensive things (Atari, Nintendo, PS1 and PS2 etc). My parents did purchase PS4 and a decent gaming pc for me back in the day. One time my father told me ‘’if you just show that you are seriously studying and if money allows, I will get you anything in luxury. However, money is the boss’’ (money is the boss as in, only if we got enough money to spent for it and not get into financial issues).

Because of that I have learnt to live kind of frugal in terms of money (for myself). I find it hard to spend money on expensive things. It took months to purchase a great gaming PC and a Steam Deck (loving the heck of it though). However, spending money on my parents (mostly my mother) is no issue. I do it without a thinking, as long as I know it makes them happy.

Now, I always wanted a MacBook since I was a teenager. I can afford to get one, I saved up for it and will not have any financial issues. I budget ever since getting my job, everything is already set (saving up for car stuff, emergency funds for both myself and parents, pension saving and even saved up for new glasses for whenever that’s needed). Yet with all of that, I still feel not comfortable paying a lot for something that’s ‘’not necessary’’ and that’s just a ‘’luxury product’’. I feel like the money, I would spent for the MacBook could better be saved towards either emergency funds or car stuff (car theory exam, the car itself etc).

Now, I’m curious if other people deal (or have dealt) with this and what is this called? How to be more at ease with spending for fun instead of always being on edge.

Note: I checked the rules and it said this is not a support community but that seemed more related to tech-stuff. If it was also meant for this kind of question. Apologies, I will ask in another community.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

I have a similar childhood history. One thing that works for me is comparing what the daily use cost for the thing is. Like with a laptop, it may cost $2k, and I may use it almost every day for 5 years, which comes out to a little over one dollar a day which is not too expensive. However, something like a pair of binoculars that may cost like $500, but I only use them 4 times a year for 5 years would be $25 per day that I use them even though they cost 1/4 as much as the laptop.

Also with the laptop, if you use it every day, going from a $1k laptop with a daily use cost of $0.50 a day to $1.00 a day is not a major jump in total daily cost, so going for a more expensive laptop that is going to make your daily experience better may be worth it, whereas going for binoculars that cost twice as much would cost $25 more per use, which is a much more significant dollar amount per use.

Another way to assess the laptop price it is to compare everything else that costs you $1 a day. You may even be able to cut out $1 a day from your budget. Like if you live in a cold climate, just don't warm up your car as long every day. Or buy a small size food thing instead of a large. Or skip eating out one day every two weeks.

I'm sure some folks will disagree with this though process, but it has worked for me, and has helped me assess the value of things in my life that I may not give much thought to because they are not glamorous, like a mattress.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm at a point in life where I've got most things that I need, so there's not a whole lot frivolous spending to for me to do. When time allows and I have some extra money, I get another flight lesson logged. And once in a while I order another batch of electronics from digikey. Beyond that I mostly put money into upgrading the hundred year old house I live in.

EDIT: And an obscene amount of PETG for 3D printing. But I feel that at this stage that's almost like groceries at this point, as most of what I print is functional/useful stuff.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I do a lot of budgeting, and I use the "pool" method.

A lot of people recommend the 50-30-20 rule: 50% of your money goes to fixed expenses, 30% goes to discretionary spending, and 20% to savings.

I tweaked that a bit and made it 60-20-20*, with the 60% being for essentials...things like clothing is included.

That 20% goes towards any guilt-free spending. I've covered everything I need, and this is money I'm allowed to spend on whatever I want...guilt-free.

EDIT: I accidentally said 60-20-30 instead of 60-20-20.

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

so you get to spend 110%? that must be awesome!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago

Lots of people do that. It's how they end up in crippling debt.

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[-] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago

If I need it and it's worth the price then I don't worry about spending money on it. Especially when talking about one time or long term purchases such as a laptop (which as an extremely satisfied MacBook user I highly recommend)

Subscribtion services and meals are the ones I take issue with. I dont want to pay high price for something and then have nothing to show for it. I will not pay 5 euros for a cup of coffee no matter what - it's not worth that to me. With items you technically didn't lose any value - you just traded cash for an object.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

My partner and I share all money, and we don’t really spend a lot other then on food, shelter, and the like. This means we have a fairly decent sum of money pooled for the future.

Similar to your first paragraph, if there’s something either of us have been talking about for a while and we find a really good price on it, we just get it without worrying. I was looking for deals on a new Apple Watch a couple months ago because we’re still using the first one that came out and it’s crazy slow and the battery only lasts eight hours now (they’re like a decade old.)

I didn’t find any watch deals, but I found a killer deal on an m4 MacBook Air. We’ve been talking about transferring our pictures off of our 2011 15” MacBook pro that still works great (added SSD, doubled RAM) because it’s so old. Instantly picked up the air. (Turns out a couple weeks later I had to hospital for a week and a half and that air was the BEST THING EVER for me there, being able to watch any movie I want ever and play games was a BOON)

I did recently find a big discount on new Apple Watches too, so I picked us both up a new one. We’ve been alluding to wanting a fresh one for five years or so—if we keep these new watches for a decade again, that’s an extremely worthy purchase!

I know Lemmy hates Apple, but I gotta say, all of the Apple shit I buy, I use for stupidly long times. Each phone has been 4-6 years, my 2011 MBP still serves me well, both of our old AirPods are like eight years old and my partner and I used them 40+ hours a week at work for years, and they still hold a charge fine…

I love my W10 machines for games and Linux for doing behind-the-scenes stuff, but damn if that little MacBook wasn’t the exact thing I needed sitting in the hospital for an eternity. I hope I can keep it for a decade lawl

My only white whale lately has been a Herman miller aeron. As soon as I find a good quality used one cor 300-500USD, I’m on my way. We took a trip a couple towns over recently to look at one for 400USD but I realized the recline lock was broken so they wouldn’t sell it to me, they just took my number and said they’d call if a fully working one comes in. …I’d take the broken one for 150 bux if it can’t be fixed… It was so damn comfy I would just leave it in the living room and sit there whenever company is over.

[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 weeks ago

Macbooks particularly are one of the stupidest shit someone can burn money on, the extreme high price and low performance make apple computers literally the worse in the market.

For the price of a powerful computer with RTX and all, you get an useless office computer where the keyboard is even too shit to do any office work on it.

As for the actual question, I tend to spend money that I shouldn't on premium audio gear, I should feel bad about it, but I really enjoy listening to good audio and for me I feel it's worth it even if I have to postpone things that for most people are considered essential.

Also, it's very hard for me to spend money on (new) computers and camera gear. I terribly need a new computer with a good GPU for 3D modeling and a decent camera. However if I buy a new computer or camera in 10 years it will be obsolete and worth 10x less than I paid for it meanwhile stuff like audio gear or musical instruments don't become obsolete so I'm more likely to spend money on yet another paid of headphones that I don't need than saving up for a computer.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

Macbooks particularly are one of the stupidest shit someone can burn money on, the extreme high price and low performance make apple computers literally the worse in the market.

I understand that you are not a fan of Apple (at least their MacBooks). However, personally, I really like their products. MacBooks are known for high quality build, long battery life and ‘it just works’. I agree the pricing is too much and can be called absurd with the upgrade pricing.

For the price of a powerful computer with RTX and all, you get an useless office computer where the keyboard is even too shit to do any office work on it

This seems more a personal opinion than truth. Their keyboards are more often than not highly praised by users.

Honestly, I rather have people answer the actual question than getting their opinions on the Apple products. If I wanted opinions on the product itself, I would’ve made a different post with different questions and title.

Anyway, I appreciate your explanation regarding the spending on audio gear, computers and obsolete issue.

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