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Quick post about AI-free FireFox Based Browsers (Keep your Addons and avoid the Bloat) (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Just pick one - All the Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf - https://librewolf.net/

Waterfox - https://www.waterfox.com/

Zen Browser - https://zen-browser.app/

More browsers here - https://alternativeto.net/category/browsers/firefox-based/

You can also use this add to disable the ~~shitload~~ ai function in many search engines in one go

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-ai/

GitHub page - https://github.com/jruns/disable-ai

You can find all the links on Mastodon<

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[-] djvinniev77@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago

Really hate how iOS has zero alternatives. Thanks apple for your stupid WebKit.

[-] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Could be worse, seriously. Safari is not a bad browser and WebKit is the only engine since years that can keep up with chromium. I get that it is annoying to have leas freedom on iOS, but I also appreciate the increased security[1] and quality of life that comes with it.

[1] yes, I am aware that open source software tends to be more secure, as it can be reviewed by all. However, Android by default is way less secure than iOS, unless you use GraphiteOS or similar.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

I also appreciate the increased security

This hasn't been true for a long, long time. Mac was only ever more secure than windows because not enough people used them to make them worthwhile attack vectors. Nowadays, iOS sees just as many vulnerabilities as every other popular OS.

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Report after report finds iOS to be more secure than Android. Here’s just one example: https://www.rokform.com/blogs/rokform-blog/which-is-more-secure-iphone-or-android

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[-] Kevlar21@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Safari on iOS is especially tolerable since they allowed uBlock Origin Lite onto the App Store recently.

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[-] mmmac@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

To be honest I don't use Firefox on android anyways because it's noticeably slower than chromium. Since I'm on graphene is I just stick to vanadium + DNS level adblocking.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There are some good iOS browsers.

At the moment, I use Orion (from Kagi) and Narrow32. Quiche Browser is good, DuckDuckGo is fine.

Discoverability on iOS is awful though. The store is just packed with SEO spam and corporate slop on top of all the passion projects or "benevolent" ones.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

At the moment, iOS doesn’t not allow any other browser engines. Every browser on iOS is just reskinned Safari.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's kind of a blessing in disguise; otherwise basically all web traffic would be Chrome.

Apparenty this is softening some: https://www.techspot.com/news/108965-japan-gives-apple-december-deadline-drop-ios-browser.html

And Safari is quite performant on iOS.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I wouldn't mind if that continues, just so there's some chunk of traffic that isn't Chrome and that web development doesn't turn into a complete monoculture. A smidge of Firefox and Safari alone isn't enough for that.

(EDIT: My assumption is that if Apple allows Chrome on iOS, you can bet they are going to funnel basically everyone into it).

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[-] nil@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I bought an old Pixel 7a with (new) case for less than $179 USD and put Graphene OS on it. Definitely cheaper than buying youself a new iPhone, and installation is easy af.

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 months ago

[-] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago

I was ignoring everything Waterfox back when I realize they were bought by an advertising company, System1, which also owns StartPage.

BUT, I recently read from Wikipedia that Waterfox has gone independent again since 2023.

[-] rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

As someone who uses waterfox but hadn't heard any of this news, that was a rollercoaster. But consider me relieved.

[-] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

As a heads up, Librewolf last I checked had issues with media involving DRM. Ergo, streaming services will throw a fit if you try using them on it. Not an issue if you don't use any of course, and there may be ways around it, but worth knowing that it doesn't work out of the box at least.

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you have to enable a setting. I think it links you to it when you run into it. Much more of a turn off to me is not being able to use my camera in it, so I have to use a different browser for video calls.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

it's in settings > general

"screenshot of librewolf's play drm-controlled content setting"

[-] Aetherion@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Zen ♥️

[-] Wanderer@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Been using it for awhile now and it’s getting better with each release!

[-] claim_arguably@lemdro.id 2 points 3 months ago

Am I the only one that zen is laggy and buggy for?

[-] scala@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Does librewolf or water fox have a mobile version that syncs tabs to desktop like official Firefox ?

[-] sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

All Geckos can sync if Mozilla Sync is enabled with an account. So you can sync say LibreWokf or WarwrFox on desktop to any mobile version, such as IronFoz. They do not have to "match".

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

No, but you can use Ironfox or another Android Firefox fork and have working sync.

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Waterfox does, I use it.

Edit: On Android.

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[-] Valarie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

I use Iceraven for my phone

Here is a github link for the android app https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

Hell yeah shoutout to alternativeto.net! Fucking great site.

[-] mmmac@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Last I used librewolf/waterfox they lagged behind a few days on security updates, so I switched to regular Firefox with arkenfox user.js

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