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[-] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As they should, stupid over complicated and absolutely failure ridden unnecessary design. kinda like this poorly worded statement

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Musk nearly bankrupted Tesla when he insisted that the door handles must be flush after stealing the company from its original founders.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, "stealing" is a strong word. Elon bought them out, and they're both enjoying a net worth in the hundreds of million.

What's more disturbing about Elon's tenure as head of the company is how social media manipulation, insider trading, and blatant SEC violations can pump a company's valuation into the stratosphere.

Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard both continued to contribute advances in engineering that far exceeded the Tesla project. But they'll never have the kind of easy credit Elon secured through politics and media manipulation. So don't expect to see them included among the ranks of "billionaire" any time soon.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Bought them out" is a weak word too though. He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before "salaries"

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.

He could place loyalists on the board because he bought a controlling interest in the company.

And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before “salaries”

The latest compensation package has virtually unattainable sales targets. And the compensation is almost entirely in equity that assumes a monumental increase in stock valuation.

If he can manage it, I'd be tempted to say he earned it, except I know he'll only "hit" the target by lying and market manipulation that will collapse as soon as he hits his mark.

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[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 2 months ago

It’s already fucked up that he legally gets to call himself a co-founder for simply being on the board.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I have long observed that moving parts, particularly involving motors, are destined to give me grief as a car ages. The difference is that little motorized interior luxuries aren't going to prevent people from pulling my unconscious body out of a burning wreck, while these door handles have for dozens of people

[-] xeekei@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 months ago
[-] Quazatron@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Should not have allowed them in the first place.

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[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 months ago

Bright headlights and combined brake/turn signals too please

[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't get me started on that, stupid direct led brakes lights should be outright illegal. They literally blind every following car behind, specially if the windshield is dirty or foggy.

How those damn things got approved in the first place is ~~beyond my understanding~~ corruption.

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[-] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?

Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.

[-] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm not shocked the major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.

Give that to a team of 90's Honda engineers and they'd have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh those Honda engineers would have laughed and laughed. "Aluminum chassis and plastic body support?!" I can hear them say through hysterics.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, the style at the time was "rust chassis and paint is body support" tbh

Aluminum chassis is the one thing I ain't gonna give Tesla any shit about.

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[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don't want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why do need this in the first place? So a 2 ton SUV can be 0.0058% more aerodynamic?

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Can China ban retina burning headlights, rear facing floodlights and aftermarket exhausts now?

[-] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Must be nice having a functional government

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Americans are going to mandate retractable handles in response

[-] determinist@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

extra handles, 2 handles per door, bigger handles, bigger extra handles

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

And all of them retractable.

[-] phar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think China or the US would be called nice in this regard.

[-] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Well, the US is very nice to corporations which is why they’re often left to self regulate, are regulated by former industry insiders, or are barely regulated through fines and settlements

So yeah I suppose in this regard China is not being nice but being nice doesn’t effectively regulate corporations. This is in fact a good example of a functional government doing its job

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Good, it's such an incredibly stupid design. Literally no one was bothered by a slight handle for better UX.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Musk makes a product so shitty even China is like, hold up.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago
[-] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Fuck Musk and Fuck Swasticars!

There's no excuse left for driving one except having bought it before this year.

Buying Tesla is funding fascism and corruption. All Musk companies need breaking up!

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago

Next can we outlaw touchscreens? I'm guessing they are far more dangerous in the end.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

As should the rest of the world.

[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The headline is terrible.

They’re not banning retractable door handles, they’re banning electronic mechanisms for opening doors.

Door handles can still be retractable, they just need to work mechanically without power not electronically like Tesla handles do.

Which makes a fuck-ton more sense than having emergency manual release cables that nobody knows about. Last thing you want in an emergency is an escape route that requires special knowledge or tools to use.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

When even China has to ban your product due to safety concerns, you've probably made some seriously bad design choices somewhere along the line.

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