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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

the fact Farage is still around after Brexit is proof the voters of the UK are just a dumb as Muricans... we are all doomed

[-] calliope@retrolemmy.com 15 points 1 day ago

Reform’s deputy leader, Richard Tice, said on Thursday that all of those who had made the claims were liars.

Oh totally, all 28 of them.

[-] Arancello@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Dont know why this is an issue, given Farage history. I am pretty low awareness of british politics though so I mist just be ignorant pf the situation.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago

It's an issue because over the decades he's been involved in public life he's always fielded claims he's a racist. Whether it's the policies he's advocating or the campaign he runs or the friends he keeps. However one could always make a case that this was circumstantial and taken out of context. Indeed he often did at the time.

Now there's growing first hand accounts of him being a racist prick that are harder to shake off. So that's the turning point.

Sadly I don't think any of this will matter. Racists will flock to him regardless of these stories. My only hope is that he sucks the racist elements out of Labour and the Tories leaving them to both be more compassionate welcoming parties. Note: this has backfired somewhat and they're both trying to out racist the Farage 🫠.

We're doomed.

[-] Unquote0270@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah I don't see it making much difference. His followers are emboldened by not being ashamed of racist sentiments like they used to be so if anything this might actually make things worse by normalising it even further for large portions of people.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

I think you're underestimating the number of people who are anti-immigration but who aren't racist, or who are at least less racist than straight up telling people Hitler was right.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe. But then, sadly, the mainstream parties don't appeal to these people so they turn to the racist ones.

A lot of this is down to piss poor messaging from governments going back to the fifties and sixties. None have properly welcomed immigration as a means to enriching society and boost economic growth. And over the past two or three decades they've done the opposite and allowed the sentiment of "they're taking your jobs" or "they're raping up your neighbourhood" run rampant.

Sack the entire shambles that is the Home Office. Sack the lot of them. Deliver a cogent policy for integration and immigration that makes sense to people. Put in the hard work to sell this to the electorate without easy buzz word spin. Actually have competent people processing visas and asylum claims. Build the f'ing infrastructure we need to thrive given increased population pressures. Oh and fuck David Lammy for no reason other than he's a twat.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 23 hours ago

You're spot on on messaging. Successive governments (and media) have taken the short term gains of tapping into anti-immigrant sentiment over the long term advantage of being honest about how we need immigration and how it affects the economy.

The papers and TV almost never bother to do their job of analysis and just reprint claims, so when the government says "we're going to listen to what people want" without loudly defending the facts, the overton window creeps quite quickly.

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