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[-] MrStankov@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

"I don't want to think about politics, but when I have to I lean heavily right."

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Trump rallies and conservatives in a nutshell

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Goes equally for Mao/Stalin style communists.

I've had people (in person) quite literally tell me they are for a one party state government that works to make workers lives better. They say the government should consult with all stake holders, but I mean, this is functionally the same as any absolute ruling class consulting with the people below them.

People will always disagree, even in a future socialist world, and if one's idea of governance being benevolent dictatorship, then I think you're cooked to think that can ever work out in the long term.

Needless to say, I was not convinced, and surprised that this kind of thinking does exist on the left also (though much less commonly I'd say).

I'm for a socialist democracy actually controlled by the workers.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

another favorite is i dont do look up anything on his policies, or i dont like politics in this or that show.

[-] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 11 points 3 months ago

Undercover Trumper. You shouldn't talk politics, but announcing it is a red flag.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

It means “I don’t want to hear your politics, I don’t want you to criticize my politics, I just want to keep acting like my support of shitty things isn’t my responsibility.”

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah... When I was on the dating apps I pretty much treated "centrist" as "conservative" for a filter

[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The chud losers know they won't get any women if they put the truth on their profile. Who wants to go out with someone who doesn't respect you as a human being? Who sees you as lesser, as an object? Who wants to take away your rights?

Their only option is to lie and hope they get someone without a spine or someone too nice to tell them to fuck off, then they take advantage them.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I would have a hard time describing my political affiliation. I would guess "leaning libertarian-socialist", but I don't fully subscribe to all so IDK in which category I fit in.

  • I like the idea of workers owning the means of production, but don't like production for use (that never works). Simply remove the C-suite leeches and distribute their paycheck and parts of the profit among workers that actually produced them.
  • States and governments can stay and should mainly act as a developmental/economic guide. Taxes are okay, but they have to be spent in a way that benefits the public, not bailouts for banks or corporations. They should pay for social security, roads, healthcare, schools and universities, imports/exports, stuff like that.
  • I'm not foolish enough to believe that humans can behave themselves, so there needs to be a way to hold perpetrators accountable in front of a court of peers. But as long as somebody doesn't harm or endanger someone else (or the environment because that affects everyone), they should be able to do whatever they damn please, including owning things.
  • There needs to be a wealth cap. Period.
  • Exceptions need to be made for goods and property that are required by everyone, like food, water and housing. Buying houses and apartments as assets is morally deplorable because all you do is enrich yourself on other's basic needs.
  • Why are private equity firms legal again?

So what am I?

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I agree with all of that. I think of myself as a pragmatist.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

A rational and compassionate human being.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Well I’m a lot more conservative but usually call myself progressive. I don’t blame corps or ceos, nor do I think large scale workers owning the means of production can work. It’s all a failure to regulate the markets, and a failure of tax policy

It wouldn’t take many changes to

  • restore a progressive tax ladder
  • reduce income inequality
  • add worker protections
  • mandate healthcare one away or another

Capitalism can be a useful function if the market is regulated for the good of the people. Power dynamics can be ok if there are protections against abuses. Wealth inequality can be a good force to drive capitalism if the excesses are moderated. But things like education and healthcare should be a right afforded to all citizens

You need an Elon musk to make Tesla happen, but that would still be true if he were limited to say ten times the income of his lowest paid employee, rather than 1,000,000 times whatever he’s at now.

You need a responsible government to guide the market toward long terms good that capitalism can’t handle.

You need a strong enough government to protect employees and consumers from corporate exploitation, and to prevent corporate ownership

And somehow we need to restore the effectiveness’s of the balance of powers we believed in for the last two centuries

[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah that's just democratic socialism or as it was coined in post Ww2 Germany: "market socialism"

[-] awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

I've never met someone who says they're not political who is actually not political. They just prefer to think about the things they care about as "above politics" or don't want the heat for their opinions.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not political, I just think you should work your whole life for rich people and get a small fraction of that in return.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago

I say not political because I haven't studied our politics and I know basically nothing about it. Otherwise I'd get "What's your opinion on what [name I never heard of] posted on their Facebook profile yesterday morning?"
Perhaps not so specific, but I don't know the people and what's going on.

It's a lot of history, specific events, constantly something new, and I have to study other things too.

[-] awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Don't sell yourself short. Politics, at its core, is just the description for group dynamics and decisions. Those impact all of us, and we all care about at least some subset of them. The dramatics and window dressing most media focuses on is just a small portion of the whole.

It's totally understandable that you may not be super knowledgeable about certain topics that are getting a lot of attention, but your values are worth being represented as a meaningful political issue.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

"Not political" in 2025+ America means they have the mental capacity of the average Idiocracy civilian.

Like, I'm sure they just rewatch people getting hit in the balls all day, every day.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

It could also mean they'd rather talk about pretty much anything else.

[-] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 15 points 3 months ago

Because if they talk about politics they dig their tombs

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You can ignore politics, but politics will not ignore you.

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Mental exercise:

There is a serial arsonist going around

A house is on fire

You meet a stranger who says they don't like to discuss whether the fire should be put out or not, nor whether the arsonist should be stopped.

If this person isn't the arsonist, their actions (or lack there of) benefit only the arsonist. They are, at least, an arsonist supporter.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

There are three options really

  • The person is so far right they don't see their views as political
  • The person is filled with apathy and has enough privilege not to care about anything or anyone
  • The person is the most uninformed unmotivated milquetoast liberal who doesn't really care about anyone else but vaguely supports values like "being nice" and "respectability politics"
[-] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Or they recognise that identifying themselves as right wing could have a negative effect on their dating prospects, so try to disguise that fact.

Unless you mean reasons they might genuinely consider themselves non political, in which I agree with you.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

even in the west coast i met someone at college that became more "conservative" when they moved here, which makes me think alot of transplant migrate to the west coast because thier "conservative" shithole must be too far right for them.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That is a sign natural selection has selected them for the male loneliness epidemic

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago

"not political" means they are okay enough with the way things are that they don't need to engage with it. It's conservative. Not necessarily far right reactionary that wants to change things for the worse, but they don't care about other people. (Or, rarely, don't recognize or care about their own suffering)

It's an idiot or monster's stance.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

meh, i'm a registered independent who votes democrat. I'll never join the dnc, but i won't vote for republicans. I don't particularly like talking politics with people either. I don't relish circle jerking over hating politicians, I just get fucking angry.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

its kinda double edged sword, the less people trying to engage it , the worst it gets and allows legitimacy to the offending side, aka conservatives. and the other hands you odnt want to start arguments and lose relationships.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I guess no one here has ever lived in a red state

[-] keyez@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I've lived in two and spoke towards progressive politics all the time. 90% of the time people are receptive if they're a smart and genuine person. Obviously I'm not approaching or hanging around someone with the maga hat with Trump flags and punisher stickers.

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

The culture wars exist for a reason. The actual policy decisions of the Right and their consequences are not especially popular. Stirring up fear and hatred for the other and encouraging blamelessness and self-righteousness amongst the base allows the oligarchy carte blanche to do whatever otherwise unpopular things they wish.

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Does the punisher symbol alone associate a person with maga?? Damn.

[-] keyez@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Just generally the not terribly smart conservative tough guy demeanor, not even using the symbol correctly is a dead give away.

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

On my old Subaru wrx, I had blacked out the entire thing, and in the small windows in the back I had a punisher logo on either side with a Subaru symbol inside of it. I thought it looked neat haha, am very far from maga though. I always liked Punisher, long before dude was co-opted by those turds. I can see how it’s a bad look though.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It's a red flag for "approves of police brutality against those people" at the very least, but context is important. Single Punisher skull on their Dodge Ram? MAGA gun fetishist. If there's at least one other comic reference the odds are way better of them being fine actually.

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Mine was just a custom punisher logo with a Subaru symbol inside of the head portion. Idk I always liked Punisher, long before the cops started touting it.. but that’s a shitty thing about getting old I guess. Things that used to be cool are now symbols of hatred. I wonder if this is how the Buddhists felt when the Nazis hikacked the swastika.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

So, nobody here actually used online dating? Here in the deep red South, "not political" means liberal and don't talk your MAGA shit at me.

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Not on any dating apps, but people I know who describe themselves as non-political are just so sick of it they can't bear to talk about it anymore, which I totally get. Especially since any good discussion always ends up ruined by someone who's very "political" but only gets their news from Facebook or something worse.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ahhh, poor Democrats. (30% of voters)

How do they ever win an election?

The Republicans (30% of voters) have a secret right-wing army of Independents (40% of voters), that's hmmm 30% Rs plus 40% Is, why, that's like 70%! That's crazy

Fortunately, the Ds are super smart. That's how they win even when outnumbered by over 2 to 1 , clever observations like this prove it (taps temple).

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