Those blue state citizens are what funds the red states...
I've been saying it for almost a year now, it won't be easy but blue states need to stop having employees federal taxes sent off every check. Instead send it to a fund, when trump pulls shit like this, use the fund to make up the difference.
It's gonna come to that point eventually and it's a complicated process, so we should have it set up and ready to pull the trigger.
For real, if California and New York alone stopped paying federal taxes, the federal government would go bankrupt immediately.
Why pay into a system that won't pay anything back out to you? Those funds are just going to the likes of Thiel and Musk, who already don't pay enough taxes. Fuck em.
On an individual level everyone can do this today, change your federal withholding to $0 on a w4.
It's 100% legal, and you will still need to pay taxes in April. But you can just not pay anything ahead of time. That whole process is essentially a payment plan that's relatively new but already taken for granted of by the government.
The social-media-conspiracy-to federal-policy pipeline is becoming suspiciously short.
When you are run by a dictator, you only need to convince one person to make a change. It’s madness.
Ofc it's political. Trump's an erratic, angry old man that even Susie Wiles said has the temperment of a raging drunk.
(FYI, Trump is a teetotaler. His behavior, that's dementia in action..)
You can't blame the dementia, he has behaved like that for decades.
Not sure how things roll in the "united" states but obviously states shouldn't support the federation if theyre treated unfairly.
I know it’s an old fashioned idea but the point of the union is to force the states to work these issues out without resorting to civil war…again
Time for blue states to stop allowing federal taxes to be paid by their citizens. File suits on behalf of your constituents. No taxation without representation
It would be fucking phenomenal for my state to keep the dollars internal and invest in more in its citizens. Why the fuck am I working everyday to subsidize the fuckers in the south and midwest that keep voting to wreck everything around us.
Agree 100% they can live in pedofile propaganda con man land and we can cut that insanity off
Time for the Blue States to cut funding to the Red Oblasts.
Hey, if red states want all the welfare people…
So then blue state citizens should cut their federal tax payments. No taxation without representation.
It’s not clear whether the freeze was inspired by specific fraud allegations or solely for political reasons.
Seriously? It's not? Does it need to be spelled out in 24 point font, in an affidavit, witnessed and signed by a judge for it to be clear to these people?
alleged minnesota fraud that was fully debunked within 48 hours as hot bullshit.
Then blue states should allow companies with employees in that state to not deduct federal taxes
Why would blue states still pay into the federal government when they're not getting anything out of it anymore? Seems to me they're financing their own abusive relationship. I don't understand how this works. Aren't blue states the only reason these crappy red states are even still slightly functional?
I'm not American but it seems to me that collectively the blue states would hold a lot of power if they're the financial backbone of the country. Can't they swing their weight around a little?
You would think. Our stupid country has senators based on statehood rather than representation of population. The pocket of Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Montana has ~3.5 million people combined, yet has 4x the voting power of California which has 10x the population. It's a garbage system.
Also if you look at virtually any statistic by state. Red states are a dumpster fire. Literacy, STDs, teen pregnancy, income, obesity, etc.
Only a complete fucking moron could be a republican. The evidence of their failure and unnecessary cruelty is overwhelming.
Taxes levied by the US federal government are against individuals and businesses directly. States also levy their own taxes independently. So these funds paid to the federal government (largely) don't go through state hands.
Ah I see. Then it makes sense. The population itself would have to stop paying taxes. That's a bit more complicated because then individuals would be sanctioned by the government and people probably don't want to take that risk.
They could withhold taxes on state employees. That would be easy. If they wanted to go full second civil war, They could pass laws making it illegal for companies to pay taxes to the federal government.
You are correct. Unfortunately, state governments don't have a hand in federal taxation. Employers typically withhold the estimated amount from employee's paychecks, and at the beginning of each year everyone submits a tax form. If they paid over their obligation, they get a refund; if they underpaid, they owe money.
Even if someone opts out of tax withholdings, they're responsible for sending their taxes to the federal government each year; typically through a third-party for-profit business (especially now that Republicans trashed the recent IRS pilot which allowed people to file their taxes directly to the federal government for free).
The only solution would be for every resident of that state to individually opt out of federal tax withholdings from their employer, but then they'd be individually liable for submitting their taxes each year. While the IRS doesn't currently have the staffing to handle that if everyone does it, that would require a level of collective trust-in-ones-fellows that simply doesn't exist in this era.
It would be much better if states could offer their protection, but apparently states can't even keep ICE out so the IRS would be no different...
I already do this because they seize my refund to pay off student loans.
They are desperate to start an insurrection so they can cancel the 2026 midterms
And you know, once you bring your population to the point of violent, open rebellion, things will settle right down with a little martial law!
This decision was made based on a Youtube video, made by some rando with Trump-friendly views, directed at Minnesota's most visible minority.
This should go without saying but: Youtubers. Should. NOT. Influence. Policy.
Correct me if I'm wrong but not even Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones ever had this much sway on influencing policy.
Rush Limbaugh literally set the stage for this. The kind of guy who should have been immediately cancelled. Instead, he was allowed to live on as a celebrity radio hate monger. Hate radio poisoned an entire generation of people. Rush didn't do it by himself, but he was the poster child for it.
Alex may have not had as big of an impact but he tortured people who lost their children in probably one of the most psychologically damaging ways possible.
Allowing people like that to make millions off of lies and hate is no kind of freedom for those who suffer. Of course Trump awarded Limbaugh the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I think he may have influenced a little more than policy.
They were going to cut welfare and social programs anyway, that's all they're here to do, they are gutting our treasury before they all get kicked out or guillotined. If the wind shifted in the wrong direction they would announce it's reason to cut funding.
Pay attention people, this is your script. When you talk to people on the fence, tuned out or already leaning right, you do not argue about social policies, racism, immigration or any of the other hot-button social issues that are on fire right now. Average dumb fucks (which is everyone) don't actually care about any of that. I'm sorry but people just broadly only care about themselves. Maybe that will change someday, but for now you are not going to get success finger-wagging and pointing out the suffering of marginalized people.
What you say is this: "Okay they're cutting all this funding for medical care and poor people, they cut NASA and all these boards for health and education and environment protection, so where's the benefit? Where is that money going? Are your groceries cheaper? Is your healthcare cheaper? Is anything getting better?"
That's it. Just ask this one question. If it's some MAGAss who starts ranting and sputtering, you let it go. Or just repeat the question. "Where is your money that they're taking out of your check? Where is going to? Getting oil from Venezuela? Are YOU going to get a barrel of crude?"
We can leverage the average dumbass American if we make it a question not a lecture. People are dumber than they've ever been, but they still want to look smart, and if you ask them a question they can't answer, they will chew on it so they know how to answer it next time someone asks.
Along similar lines, I always noticed how we have a vigorous debate about tax rates but nobody ever seems to discuss the benefits you receive for them. The tax rate isn't going down to zero for working people ever. As long as we have to pay, surely we should get something in return.
100%, we need to keep the focus on what our government is doing for us, we're supposed to be the people who pay for and "own" our government, we pay their bills with our hard work and money, we sacrifice our future so that we can have a government. "We the people" needs to have meaning. Turn people's desire to be patriotic against the right targets.
Absolutely. People who don't "care" about "politics" , they do care about economic issues that affect them
He really wants a war, whether it be a civil or with another country.
This way he can cancel all elections and become the King of America.
The executive doesn't have that unilateral authority. What he's doing is illegal; unconstitutional, even.
"No taxation without representation" ring any bells?
It’s not cause of the issues in Minnesota. It’s cause they are blue. Full stop.
Also, Trump is a convicted felon and pedophile. So there’s that.
Aren't we pretty much at or close to trumps a child sex trafficker now in addition to being a pedophile?
Yeah. I think so. I was calling that like a month ago.
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