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A new, thinner XPS 13 is also coming later this year.

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[-] 2910000@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

1 Hz display option: like an e-Ink display?

(it says 120Hz in the article)

[-] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago

They might mean down to 1hz like some smart phones do, to save battery.

[-] 2910000@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

There's a 1920 x 1200 non-touch display option, which will surely get you better battery life than OLED. But what's most interesting about it is the 1-120 Hz variable refresh rate, which Dell says is a first to for this model. That extremely low refresh should help save power when static images or text is on the screen.

Ah yeah, I should have read the rest of the article. I didn't know about that feature though, that's cool

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Oh boy, always on oled displays are so in now. 

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[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Good Lord, they're copying that hideous notch design from the macbooks.

[-] thejml@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

On one hand, its not that bad on a Mac... but that's because the OS is designed in such a way where there's nothing there and it sorta gets lost. Windows isn't like that at all.

On the other hand, At least its not right above the keyboard like some of the ones we have at work... the "up the nose" cam is not flattering.

[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Just give me a bezel, I want a machine not a fashion accessory.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I hate the notch, and I used to say I'd rather have a bezel, but after going back to one of my pre-notch laptops, not having a bezel is nice. I still hate the notch though. I wish I could opt for just not having a built in webcam. It's not like they use it for faceid, and I use an external webcam for work meetings anyway. Plus the iPhone seamlessly works as a webcam.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

The pessimist sees the notch as wasted space, the optimist sees it as extra screen.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

but that's because the OS is designed in such a way where there's nothing there

This is not true. There are multiple third party apps that help you avoid having menu icons disappear behind the notch. I don't use those though, and instead blindly drag my menu icons behind the notch repeatedly until the one I want pops out from behind it.

[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yikes, just apple things I guess

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

but that's because the OS is designed in such a way where there's nothing there

Ehh OSX uses the top of the screen as a menu bar so for apps which have a lot of menu bar options, those are gone. A lot of third party apps also let you place helpful widgets on the menu bar so that's kinda not a thing anymore either.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

You don’t use macOS do you? Any apps that have that many items on the menu bar are simply pushed to the right of the notch. There is 2” of blank menu bar in 99% of all use cases.

And if you still don’t like it, you bump the uninterrupted menu bar under the notch fully and everything above it (to the left and right of the notch) black as if there’s a bezel.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

It doesn't look like a notch. The picture with the lock screen doesn't show the image going up around the camera.

[-] cambodia@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Replacing the function keys with a capacitive bar was the stupidest thing they have ever done. So silly that even Apple walked back on that design choice.

Any serious laptop buyer would rule out a laptop just for that. And any casual buyer looking to spend XPS money on a laptop is going to buy a MacBook.

I'm glad the XPS line is back but unfortunately for Dell Windows is worse than ever.

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The touch bar worked well for me on a Macbook. Most of the hotkeys there use cmd+something instead of the f-keys, so I needed the f-keys with only a couple apps, namely Double Commander. But what's better, there are apps to put custom controls into the touch bar. The most useful one for me was the button to hand off the Bluetooth headphones from the laptop to the phone or vice versa (via a bash script of mine). Plus I could also have app-specific custom buttons.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

My work gave me a Mac with this. I absolutely hated it - constantly triggering random things I didn't want or need and apparently something about the wiring caused the physical keyboard to fail prematurely.

Fortunately we've moved on from those dark days. I still have to use a Mac, but at least there's no touch bar.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

It was dumb. Forced you to always look at your keyboard.

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[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I miss my clitmouse XD

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Seems like the new naming scheme didn't work out after all, eh?

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[-] uninvitedguest@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago

These fuckers have no USB-A ports but has a headphone jack?

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

what the fuck is a 1 HZ display option

[-] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It says in the article: Energy saving and for static images 

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[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It dynamically regulates the refresh rate down to 1hz to save energy, it's like an LTPO panel on a phone

[-] nettie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'll never buy an xps again. Last one needed pretty much everything replacing, and within 3 years dell stopped manufacturing the battery!!

$2k on a laptop that's a brick within 3 years?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] tankplanker@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I cancelled my framework 16 order because of their "big tent" policy meaning they give funding to Hyperland and Omarchy, I will not give my money to people who fund racists

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm a little miffed with framework actually.

I had a order with them that they chose to cancel because they just randomly charged the account one day months after I had pre-ordered something, and there wasn't enough money in the account because I didn't know when they were going to charge for it. They didn't contact me or anything, they just cancelled the order. Thanks guys.

Edit: Deleted an extra word

[-] kivulallo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I never ordered a Framework before but I'm planning to do this year. Isn't that how it's supposed to be? Last time I visited their site it was written that you pay a reserve price at the time of order, then they charge your card later with the remainig price before they ship it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Right but who has like three grand just sitting in a checking account, that shit in a savings account because I'm not Bill Gates and I need every penny I can get from the interest? If they're not going to tell you at the time that you pre-order when they're going to bill you, then they need to contact you ahead of time or that's going to keep happening.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, I have that in my account. But I'm also paranoid about bounced checks and don't see the appeal of getting a nickel a month in exchange for worrying about something suddenly eating my float and causing bounced checks.

The interest rate on the savings account tied to my checking is not great...

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[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

I owned several xps in a row, then got one with that touch bar. I returned it and stayed away since. Smart move to ditch it

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

1 Hz display option

Btw, is there something like Adaptive Sync for display servers? Although most devices' drivers only allow for 30 or 20 Hz minimum, automatic change from energy saving (reading static text) to high refresh (scrolling text, playing video) would be neat.

And while we're on it: recalculating all 4 million pixels just because you moved the cursor is kinda a clutch, no? Not to mention 30+ times in the second just because.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I was confused when I read that part of the title, I thought they accidentally typed it instead of 120. A 1hz display for all functions would be a hilarious thing to play with for a minute or two.

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[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

No clit-mouse, no deal.

(There are dozens of us. Dozens!)

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Looks promising. If I can buy it with Linux, that’s a plus. And turn off the touchscreen.

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Build quality for Dell is down over the past few years

[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Hijacking top comment to report that: This is true across the industry for (most) OEMs

The Secret is to buy "Enterprise level"

Check out the LATITUDE line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Latitude

Those are enterprise fleet laptops ... the ones they have to support for 5-10 years.

You know which line they don't discontinue parts for? You know which line has repair manuals and driver updates available? wanna take a wild guess which line is usually more modular and powerful at the expense of being less sleek looking and thin?

And the best part is that you can usually buy them fairly cheap if you find them used.

I prefer Dell Latitude to HP Elitebook, Thinkpads are OK too but they've gone down in quality a lot since they got bought by Lenovo

TL;DR = Buy an enterprise level laptop, consumer line laptops are all trash,

[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Replying to my own comment to give yall one more tidbit.

The latitude product nomenclature is still standard

  • 2 first digits of the model number are the "class" the higher the laptop the more high end
  • last 2 digits of the model number are the generation (we are current in 60)

So for example the Latitude 9460 is the very high end laptop that came out at the beginning of this year while the 3540 was the entry level economy latitude that came out in 2023

[-] edg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Lenovo has been making thinkpads for 20 years. The complaint that their quality is still less than how laptops were manufactured 2 decades ago feels rather dated.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Oh my god this post made me feel ancient, I was still thinking that was like 10 years tops. 💀

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