Yankie, go home!
This was so predictable
Manifest destiny/Monroe doctrine part 2 electric boogaloo
Death to the empire. Stay safe, comrades.
Okay so this is terrifying. I feel like we are nosediving into something incredibly big but I also do not want to sound paranoid. Is the US really willing to fight a war with Mexico? Right at the US border?
Pakistan comes to mind. Sometimes the US bombs its allies and they just let it happen.
Sadly, the US gov't is at the height of arrogance so even the idea of a war with Mexico is something that we can't rule out of their plans. However, soon they will taste defeat.
Inshallah
I always felt that the only way the US would change for the better is through war on US soil. I do not want that to happen but considering the history of that country, it’s the only language that is listened to. I probably sound terrible, but I just do not know how else to word this.
There are like 40 million of Mexican diaspora living in the US and I doubt they'd kindly accept an attack on their home country. We're talking about over 10% of the US population. The threat of civil unrest is larger than the US has ever seen. Not that it will stop Trump but fighting a war with a border nation, possibly fighting a war with Europe, doing whatever they are doing in South America and the Middle East all at once seems like a bit too much, even for the US.
Unrest is one word for it. No military has ever had a good time fighting against guerillas, and if the US kicks off against Mexico it's going to be a campaign with the guerillas pre-infiltrated all over the US.
That's assuming the narcos are independent from the USA. In reality, they are literally the imperialist hunting dogs that eliminate anything that hinder capitalist exploitation.
A good book to understand my point is

the last time they had a war on US soil, they ended up mostly banning slavery, so you may be right...
Not really. There's a prison industrial complex for reasons.
Yes.
As a kinda unrelated note, homicides went down 30%(!) in a single year, because repression/violence isn't the only way(, nor the best i.m.o.,) way to lower criminality, at least she adds social policies to her repression : https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mexico-homicide-rate-2026

(AMLO was awesome, and Ecuador proved among other countries that repression without social measures is less efficient than the right depicts it, they should just look at what works, e.g. many studies point to abortion in order to explain the diminution of criminality in the 90s, people aren't genetically predestined to sin, it's almost entirely a result of the environment, of course)
Anyway, D.Trump shouldn't strike territories that don't want his "help".
If we(sterners) want less crimes in poor countries, then having a relatively same standard of living in all of them should be our first priority(, but we'd lose our advantage when buying/investing abroad, as well as our disadvantage when exporting products made in the west, a disadvantage that we've shouldered until now through our monopoly on highly complex manufactured products).
Also, perhaps attack the american buyers instead of the mexican makers ? I don't get it. Just like for the american druglords, one less mexican drug-maker would leave room for a new one to arrive.
If i understood correctly, they'd need to work 3-4 times more in order to buy the same thing :

So much "justice".
Sheinbaum is a fucking idiot for trying to appease him. Neuter your own country, invite US troops, tariff china, and you still get fucked over.
She doesnt have that much elbow room and besides she is "just" a social democrat, so not really ideologically equipped to go toe to toe with america. Mexico is too dependent economically on the us.
Yea, the socdem party has proven utterly incapable to rise to the moment.

I imagine sharing borders with the US makes things difficult
yes but it's no excuse, there is a clear lack of urgency in the socdem faction in mexico and they were incompetent in dealing with organized crime, which regardless if they're organized by the US or not it's a massive failure and they've had plenty of time to do something at least.
They've failed to attack the financial mechanisms of organized crime presumably bc pulling on that thread could expose a bunch of embezzlement and corruption by officials who have been absolved of their sins for jumping like rats from the sinking ship that is PRI and PAN and onto morena. Not that the US wouldn't have balked at it, since it's their bankers raking it in.
I think you should give Mexican leadership a chance to react before you start flinging "I know better" insults. Unless you are yourself living in Mexico and believe you have a thorough enough understanding of its context to be weighing in, in this way.
Nah western leftists are always right trust me bro /s
(You're right)
Are you really saying "give the dem-soc a chance"?
Unless you are yourself living in [country]
haven't we seen this line enough from coup supporters to know it is cringe? We use Historical materialism not "lived experience." Time will tell but Sheinbaum's track record is spotty at best.
I think stink understood what I meant and it's already resolved.
Are you really saying “give the dem-soc a chance”?
This is not what I said.
haven’t we seen this line enough from coup supporters to know it is cringe?
Also not what I said.
But for the sake of clarity, I will try to explain in context: This is a complicated situation as allying and interests go, and I believe solidarity in anti-imperialism should be more important than assuming the worst of those who are not ideal leaders. If the leadership of Mexico caves/capitulates to any and all demands the US has, including transparent invasion, then at that point, I think it's safe to say they are little better than compradors. As far as I know / at the time of writing, there is not information that such has occurred. The line about where the person lives was because I don't know where the person I was responding to lives and I wanted to allow for the fact that they could be closer to the situation than I realize and know things in detail about the leadership of Mexico that I don't. It's not that that would mean they are automatically more correct than others, but that the energy could be coming from something I don't know. It doesn't mean I will defer and capitulate to every point of view espoused by someone who allegedly lives in a country I don't live. Nor does it mean I'd apply that understanding universally, knowing how anecdote gets used to push imperialist viewpoints.
I'm partially sympathetic to her because when the monster is right next to you it makes perfect sense to think appeasing it will keep it away.
Yet on the other hand Mexico has a long history of trying to keep the US out of its territory through appeasement and it never works out so she should really have known better.
Even Maduro's VP is still trying to talk about peace! At this point it should be abundantly clear to everyone that Trump/The US cannot be reasoned with.
Even Lenin signed a treaty, Brest-Litovsk, handing control of Ukraine and Finland over to Germany because he knew the Red Army was in no position to fight them. Russia lost a third of its land, most of its industry, nearly all its coal, and much of its railways. Lenin's thought was it is better to take the hit to keep the movement alive; Trotsky disagreed and thought they should keep fighting to give European countries time to revolt.
Genuine question though what other choice does Venezuela realisticly have. i dont think they can realisticly strike the United States in retaliation.
the US has them surrounded by military bases and naval ships, the fuck are they supposed to do
They just got their President stolen, their entire damn guard was murdered, their weapons systems were hacked, and over 80 are left dead, there’s nothing for one to do after that point besides try and calm the fuck down or panic will ensue. There’s no realistic scenario where directly fighting the US ends well, what I would recommend is pulling out of non-proliferation deals and reinforcing ALBA and the union of South America (or at least, friendly states), into a direct ‘attack on one is an attack on all’ move.
not the same thing. Rodriguez saying they want peace is not giving ground. Would you prefer she call on us to bomb them to hell? She is still demanding the return of Maduro and saying he is the president.
In Sheinbaum’s case, the tariffing China thing was because they thought that would win Harris over if she won. Cant say much about anything else, but yeah, it’s not like Mexico’s in a position where it’s willing to fight a war with the US. After all, they’ve lost over half their territory before, the US’ actions still leave massive lasting trauma, I truly understand appeasement, even if it doesn’t do shit, after what they just saw on the 3rd.
Mexico introduced 50% tariffs in December.
Tariffs were implemented to appease Trump/ under pressure not whatever you're trying to say about harris.
I hate being right at this point
Deadass, I wish we'd gotten Noroña jfc it's been blunder after blunder
Trump definitely broke through some kind of glass to a new level of escalation. Before his second term is out I expect to see at least a half dozen other countries getting US military action like this.
Greenland is 100% going to be an American territory soon and I can’t wait to see the entire EU just shuffle uncomfortably in their seats and do absolutely nothing to stop it from happening.
Oh, THAT'S why troops aren't going to Venezuela. They're saving ICE money by cutting down on transportation.
There was a story that they wanted to kidnap Maduro before Christmas, but delayed it because they were too busy bombing someplace else 
accusing the current government of mexico of working with the cartels and start actions to desestabilize the country
the narcos this time take over the country seriously and start narcocorridos to put the people on their side against the puto gringo naranja
ese compa ya esta muerto, no mas no le han avisado, wey
Damn. I had a bad feeling about Mexico being in the US sights since the beach signs "mistake." I'm so sorry again, Mexico.
Those pardons to the families of the cartels make a lot more sense now. Trying to get them to side with the US, or at least remain neutral.
I can't turn on the audio for some reason here on Lemmygrad.
You can try to open the video link to hear it.
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