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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looks like the IDF is broadening their horizons and striking medical facilities in Egypt

Taba isn't anywhere near Gaza (nor anywhere near Israeli population centers), so I'm really not sure what the IDF is thinking.

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

guy who still thinks Ukraine will break through Russian lines in Zaporozhye any day now

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not 100% sure what these are but look like some leaked documents on plans/orders.

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Israel was started by hotel bombers, not surprising their soldiers get a free stay at the Hamas Hilton and they start bombing indiscriminately.

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

🔴 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine:

The duty of the nation and supporters of Palestine is to escalate the struggle against the forces of aggression.

The primary duty of all forces supporting the right of the Palestinian people and opposing the genocidal war against them is to intensify their struggle against the countries involved in the aggression and war against our people. This comes in light of escalating genocidal crimes and the cutting off of all communications with Gaza in an attempt to hide the massive and egregious crimes committed by the enemy against unarmed women, children, and the elderly.

It is inconceivable, after the fall of about 8,000 martyrs, tens of thousands injured, and the displacement of one and a half million Palestinians in Gaza, along with daily genocidal crimes, that the international and Arab response would be at this level. The UN General Assembly's statements have been weak, the European Union's stance is hostile and supports the continuation of genocide, and the positions of the United States and Britain are fully involved in the criminal war against our people.

This aggressive alliance will not be dismantled by timid positions or half-hearted stances, but requires an escalation of serious revolutionary action against all these forces, primarily the United States and the other forces of the aggression alliance. Their embassies and bases remain active and present in Arab countries and around the world, untouched by even the minimum amount of protest.

The Front expresses its deep appreciation for every act of solidarity. Still, the scale of zionist crimes against our people requires much more. The magnitude of the massacre and genocidal war should shake the world and mobilize all Arab, friendly forces, and supporters of freedom worldwide.

The Front calls for escalating the struggle and focusing on the embassies of the countries of the aggression alliance and its supporters, considering America as the spearhead of this aggression. They should realize the consequences of their actions and their clear complicity in the killing our children and in the massacres and genocidal war against our people.

Providing justifications and excuses to lower the level of revolutionary and solidarity action to symbolic and formal levels is a stab in the back of Palestine and its people, and will comfort the aggression alliance to give it space to continue crimes against our people. The Front reaffirms its previous call for a mass flood towards the embassies, interests, and bases of the aggression forces and a greater role for solidarity parties and forces in escalating the struggle against the alliance of enemies worldwide.

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine

October 28, 2023

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[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

babe wake up it's 10am, time for your daily helpless doomscroll

Death to America

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PFLP

https://streamable.com/m1i6tl

These 120mm mortar things make a serious boom when they launch.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

American advisers recommended that the Israeli military, during a ground operation in the Gaza Strip, limit itself to special forces raid operations with massive air support instead of a full-fledged invasion, which would lead to heavy losses and a threat to hostages.

The Pentagon called on the IDF to study the experience of the American army in battles with ISIS in Iraq. - CNN

Somehow everything suddenly began to heat up. Biden said: “I warn the Ayatollah: if our forces are attacked, we will respond, and he must be ready.” - Politico

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

BREAKING NEWS : the Israel Defense Forces have begun the ground invasion over the Gaza strip, TASS reported. New updates will come soon on the channel, stay careful.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

— 🇮🇱/🇵🇸 BREAKING: 'Within 24 hours, we will move to expand the attack from the ground, sea and air' - Gallant

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[-] OperationOgre@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Sources confirm that elite Navy Seals units, whose members have been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Qaeda, and have over 300 confirmed kills, have been deployed to the Middle East in response to rising tensions in the region.

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas just blew up a Namer APC with 14 IOF soldiers in it using a kornet, the footage was released on Al Jazeera live stream but not on their Telegram because of no internet in Gaza

edit: it was actually from yesterday and it's a panther not a Namer... ironic name https://streamable.com/cfgufu

edit2: sadly the video seems to be much older than yesterday, I am not sure how old

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Rybar playing down analysis suggesting that Russia intends to provide intelligence and recon to the resistance, instead suggesting that it's just for fighting IS militants.

🇮🇱🇮🇷 🇷🇺 🇸🇾 The French publication Intelligence Online reports, based on intelligence sources, that the Russian authorities will soon transfer nine Forpost-M UAVs to the Khmeimim airbase in Syria. This has raised concerns among Israeli intelligence services, who fear that these reconnaissance drones could be used to assist Hezbollah and Iran against Israel.

📌 The transfer of drones to Syria aligns with the current situation, which goes beyond the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are other factors to consider: the increased activity of Islamic State militants and the near expulsion of Wagner PMC detachments from Syria. This requires the establishment of departmental units to replace them.

Given the strongholds supervised by Wagner in Syria, it is necessary to maintain air control over them, especially in light of the intensification of IS militants (source (https://t.me/rybar/53406)).

However, Hezbollah, Iran, and proxy formations do not necessarily require Russian drones. The Iranians already possess the knowledge and technology to target artillery and missiles at their desired objectives.

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

JIHAD NOW
JIHAD NOW
JIHAD NOW
JIHAD NOW
JIHAD NOW
JIHAD NOW

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Potentially the prophecy Netanyahu is referencing?

If Palestine is the "nation or kingdom that will not serve thee", Netanyahu's statement saying they will fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah is a statement of intent to genocide.

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[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Breaking news from Italy:

Giorgia Meloni is newly single, now is the time for any daring posters to fix her and Italy.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Pentagon spokesman to Al Jazeera: We are not part of any ground operation carried out by #Israel

The Washington Post, citing officials: US administration officials have become very concerned about the potential repercussions of a full-scale ground attack.

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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

per The Guardian feed

Reuters writes from the UN HQ in Manhattan about Iran’s words to Israel’s close ally, the US:

I say frankly to the American statesmen, who are now managing the genocide in Palestine, that we do not welcome [an] expansion of the war in the region. But if the genocide in Gaza continues, they will not be spared from this fire,” Amirabdollahian told an emergency meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East.

yeah yeah i'll believe it when i see it guy

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New Hersh article

Netanyahoo won't/hasn't explained why there were no troops on the border. Hamas and Egyptian official are fighting for a cut of the UN supplies. No clear reasoning established for why Hamas is releasing hostages, but the supected reasoning is to either slow down the bombing and/or get more aid in. The raid went better than Hamas expected, but a lot of Palestinians who weren't "invited to the party" flowed out of Gaza once the walls had been breached and committed a lot of the actions that are being blamed on Hamas (but also some of the ones who were "invited" probably did some of it, too).

part 1THE MYSTERIES OF OCTOBER 7 As Hamas releases hostages and Israel continues to bomb Gaza, many questions remain unanswered

A decade ago, while on a trip to the Middle East, my wife and I were sharing a pizza dinner in a Jerusalem hotel with an American journalist and a photographer who had just returned from a reporting visit to Gaza City. An anchorman for one of America’s television networks and his wife joined us. The journalist and photographer chatted at some point in Arabic with our waiter and that chatter prompted a middle-aged gentleman in a suit and tie who was dining alone to approach our table and ask if he could join. He explained that he was a US Army intelligence officer, a colonel, assigned to the American consulate in Jerusalem and his mission was to report on Gaza. The only problem, he said, was that he was not allowed to actually travel to Gaza and so when he overheard the journalists talking about their visit there, he wanted to know more.

We invited him to join, and the colonel got what was in effect a briefing on the deprivation and despair that the reporters had found.

Gaza and Hamas—the Islamist group that has led the territory since 2007—remain murky, confounding subjects today. Why did Hamas stage an early morning raid on October 7 in what turned out to be a series of unguarded kibbutzim in Israel south? Why were only a few Israelis Israeli soldiers on duty that morning?

We in the media do not know the full story. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is saying nothing about Israel’s failure to defend its citizens, although a number of leading generals have publicly apologized for their lapse, and Hamas has insisted that the mission it authorized was solely aimed at the capture of a few Israeli soldiers to be used for a possible prisoner exchange. Hamas operatives began the operation early on the morning of October 7 by blowing up the unguarded fences separating Gaza from Israel.

Hamas also has claimed that the bulk of the mayhem was caused by other terrorist groups and the aggrieved citizens of Gaza who flooded across the downed gates and fences, with no Israeli soldiers to stop them. It has been widely reported that Israel, at the instigation of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was financing Hamas, via funds supplied by Qatar, in the belief that a strong Hamas would make a two-state solution, long sought by some in Washington, unlikely.

That is where we are today. Israel is now in the process of turning Gaza City into rubble, via constant bombing, and is also planning to begin a ground invasion in the near future. A well informed American official told me that the Israeli leadership is known to be considering flooding Hamas's vast tunnel system before sending in its troops, many of whom have had only a few weeks of training in the maneuvers and coordination required for the invasion. Such an act could mean that Israel was prepared to write off the hostages still in jeopardy.

Where the estimated two hundred-plus hostages are is an open question. Israel is only talking about the end of the Hamas regime, and Hamas has so far released four hostages. Two elderly Israelis were released yesterday, with no known demands.

The release was the second in three days. The first involved two Americans, a mother and her teenage daughter, who appeared to be in good health. All four were given over to the International Committee of the Red Cross. The American official told me that the Israel leadership expects more to come soon. The releases could be a sign that the Hamas leadership is feeling pressure because of the incessant bombing, which is widely assumed to be a precursor to an all-out Israel ground attack. They could also be a sign that Hamas is not going to let the Israeli bombing dictate its hostage policy. There have been secret talks about a larger release of Israeli prisoners since the first United Nations relief trucks began flowing from Egypt into southern Gaza, where up to a million hungry and thirsty refugees were waiting.

The complete aid shipment should have been delivered directly to the Red Cross representatives who are already in Gaza City, the American official told me, “but the Egyptian UN officials wanted a cut and so did Hamas.” The official said that after much back and forth late last week a deal was worked out. The distribution of the goods would be left in the hands of Red Cross officials in Gaza City, and Hamas would forward its share, the official said, to its fighters “in the tunnels and their families. The rest would go to cronies”—that is, to senior members of the Hamas leadership. In return, Hamas would release ten more hostages when the actual transfer of goods took place. It is not known whether the hostages to be released were to include any Americans.

The American official who outlined the bargaining involved did not know why the agreement fell apart. But he was dismissive of the greed involved. “The Egyptians and Palestinian factions were fighting for the relief goods,” he told me, “while the needy living without clean water and food will continue to suffer.”

One serious complication that has not been publicly discussed since the October 7 attack is that the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, were not the sole attackers or collectors of hostages on a day in which there was no Israeli Army presence in the kibbutzim and villages under attack for at least eight hours.

“We know,” the American official told me, “that the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade participated.” He was referring to a coalition of Palestinian armed groups that have been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Israel, the European Union, and a number of other nations worldwide. (Hamas has also been designated a terrorist group by the US and the EU.)

“Was the attack a surprise to the Hamas civilian leadership? No. It was long in the planning and coordinated. The other crazies with a history of terrorism were enlisted to join forces. Did they expect success? No. Did the attacking force commit egregious atrocities? Yes. Was it unanticipated by Hamas? No. All involved proclaimed their intention and proved it in their tactics over the past twenty years. Will Israel react and destroy Hamas? Yes. Are they justified? Was the creation of a Jewish state justified? One person’s answer to the second question answers the first.” He went on: “Will the refugees die of starvation? No. Public sympathy for their genuine suffering will save the day.”

I heard a similar account of how the long-planned October 7 attack got out of control from a long-standing expert on Middle Eastern politics who has no access to American intelligence assessments. “The goal of the Palestinian operation,” he told me, “was exactly what happened—a shocking and inspired military operation that humiliated the Israelis and shook them to their foundation. Hamas military commanders had a map of bases [inside Israel] and wanted to take computer servers with all of the potentially compromising information they contained and would probably have sent them to Iran for analysis.”

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

The Sources of American Power

It's rather telling that commentary on American (and Russian) Power focuses on the military while commentary on Chinese Power focuses on economics and infrastructure.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

This is what one of the hospitals in Gaza is going through right now: https://nitter.cz/EyesOnSouth1/status/1716575626050605332

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[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Summary of last night's events that I generally think seems mostly true:

Local sources: There is no ground advance by the occupation army on the borders of the #Gaza Strip, and last night #Palestinian fighters succeeded in repelling #Israeli forces on more than one axis and forced them to retreat after allowing them to cross the border for a very short distance, where they fell into #Palestinian ambushes and fierce clashes took place, including the firing of rockets. #Palestinian anti-armor vehicles, and currently the occupation army vehicles are stationed behind sand barriers behind the border and are not visible to the eye

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