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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I must be depressed again or maybe just tired, I hate myself and my lack of music ability.. but like two weeks ago I was feeling like I made it. I'm frustrated by the lack of gigs and my last jam session performance wasn't as good as I was hoping. I was also a little eepy tired guy than too.

It's just painful to get washed out by white kid 19 year olds, i dont know what to do. Its either persevere and get good or i start putting all my time and energy into something else.

Music is fucking hard and to come from where I came from and to pull it off I think in hindsight is amazing. It actually is objectively impressive to do what I've done so far. It's still not enough but fuck

If I stop being a musician look out the rest of the world.

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago
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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

per The Guardian feed

Reuters writes from the UN HQ in Manhattan about Iran’s words to Israel’s close ally, the US:

I say frankly to the American statesmen, who are now managing the genocide in Palestine, that we do not welcome [an] expansion of the war in the region. But if the genocide in Gaza continues, they will not be spared from this fire,” Amirabdollahian told an emergency meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East.

yeah yeah i'll believe it when i see it guy

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I need to at some point go by this Palestinian restaurant in my city. Broke my foot so haven't been out for a while.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

If I were the one writing doctrine for a modern army I think I would provide every single squad multiple manpads. It would be one of the things I would want the highest amount of production for.

In particular against the nato (US) forces, removing their air advantage is 90% of the fight.

Manpads need to be capable of downing jets too. Not just helicopters. Need to develop mass production manpads that can take down an F35.

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is quite literally a dril post for everything

Edit: this is fake I was bamboozled

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Al Jazeera:

Netanyahu crossed a red line: Israeli opposition leader
Leader of the Israeli opposition, Yair Lapid, has slammed Netanyahu, saying the PM “crossed a red line” after blaming the country’s security establishment for the failures that led to the October 7 attack.
“While IDF soldiers and commanders are fighting valiantly against Hamas and Hezbollah, he is trying to blame them instead of backing them up,” Lapid said on X.
“The attempts to evade responsibility and place the blame on the security establishment weakens the IDF while it is fighting Israel’s enemies. Netanyahu must apologize for his words.”

Update:

Netanyahu deletes controversial tweet: Report
Israeli media report that PM Netanyahu has deleted a controversial statement where he blamed the military and the Shin Bet – Israel’s intelligence services – for having assessed before the war that Hamas was deterred and wanted to come to a settlement.
We earlier reported that Benny Gantz, a retired general and member of Israel’s war cabinet, said Netanyahu “must retract” the statement, adding that “leadership must show responsibility, decide to do the right things and strengthen the forces”.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

the posts going around of the journalists who have been reporting on palestine that are now dead should radicalize you, if nothing else has. you go through their accounts, you're looking at someone who is never coming back. that should make you feel something.

Nitter

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

An American military transport aircraft C-17 Globemaster with the call sign of a medical evacuation board is en route from Baghdad to the Ramstein base, where the Landstuhl military hospital is located.

It appears that after yesterday's attacks on US bases in the Middle East, wounded or killed US troops are being transferred.

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Al Jazeera:

110 doctors and other medical staff killed so far: Gaza ministry

At least 110 medical staff in the Gaza Strip have been killed by Israeli shelling and air strikes since October 7, the health ministry says.

  • More than 100 medical staff have been injured
  • 50 ambulances have been attacked, half no longer functioning
  • 12 hospitals and 46 primary healthcare clinics have shut down because of damage from bombing or lack of fuel
  • 24 hospitals – with a bed occupancy of 2,000 – have been told to evacuate in northern Gaza
[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

AL JAZEERA:

We don’t know about anything that is happening in other districts in the territory. Maybe there are new bombardments taking place in these areas. We don’t know how many victims. We can only hear bombardments everywhere, but we don’t know any anything about the casualties, about the situation on the ground.

We don’t know anything also about the medical conditions of doctors, medical workers, even at the Al-Shifa Hospital [the largest in Gaza]. The situation is catastrophic right now. We can no longer communicate with the international community to send our voice to the world to know what is happening on the ground. I hope that this message might reach and have an access to the world despite what we have experienced throughout the last hour.

We are now in a hospital and we are going to be live by satellite as much as we can and every single hour. So please, if you can hear us, send that message to the world that we are isolated now in Gaza. We don’t have any phone signals. We don’t have any internet connections. We found great difficulty even to communicate and contact with our relatives in different parts of the territory.

Journalists here, even the citizens inside the hospital, they don’t have any access to the networks. They don’t have any kind of communication even with their neighbors. There is a great problem in the network connections. We don’t know how it’s dropped. We don’t know if it was targeted.

The situation on the ground is really terrible. Everyone is afraid, everyone is terrified. Please ,guys, if you can hear us send this message to the world that we are becoming isolated.

Al Jazeera currently only has sporadic communication with correspondents in Gaza following the latest strikes on the besieged enclave.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

#Palestine / #Israel 🇵🇸🇮🇱: Communist "Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine" (#DFLP) released a photo with the message “Death ambushes await you” from #Gaza.

The photo shows a fighter with a 12.7mm AM-50 Sayyad anti-materiel sniper rifle; originally made by #Iran 🇮🇷.

https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1716080480708120974

That is a very serious gun.

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[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Breaking news from Italy:

Giorgia Meloni is newly single, now is the time for any daring posters to fix her and Italy.

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[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Potentially the prophecy Netanyahu is referencing?

If Palestine is the "nation or kingdom that will not serve thee", Netanyahu's statement saying they will fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah is a statement of intent to genocide.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New Hersh article

Netanyahoo won't/hasn't explained why there were no troops on the border. Hamas and Egyptian official are fighting for a cut of the UN supplies. No clear reasoning established for why Hamas is releasing hostages, but the supected reasoning is to either slow down the bombing and/or get more aid in. The raid went better than Hamas expected, but a lot of Palestinians who weren't "invited to the party" flowed out of Gaza once the walls had been breached and committed a lot of the actions that are being blamed on Hamas (but also some of the ones who were "invited" probably did some of it, too).

part 1THE MYSTERIES OF OCTOBER 7 As Hamas releases hostages and Israel continues to bomb Gaza, many questions remain unanswered

A decade ago, while on a trip to the Middle East, my wife and I were sharing a pizza dinner in a Jerusalem hotel with an American journalist and a photographer who had just returned from a reporting visit to Gaza City. An anchorman for one of America’s television networks and his wife joined us. The journalist and photographer chatted at some point in Arabic with our waiter and that chatter prompted a middle-aged gentleman in a suit and tie who was dining alone to approach our table and ask if he could join. He explained that he was a US Army intelligence officer, a colonel, assigned to the American consulate in Jerusalem and his mission was to report on Gaza. The only problem, he said, was that he was not allowed to actually travel to Gaza and so when he overheard the journalists talking about their visit there, he wanted to know more.

We invited him to join, and the colonel got what was in effect a briefing on the deprivation and despair that the reporters had found.

Gaza and Hamas—the Islamist group that has led the territory since 2007—remain murky, confounding subjects today. Why did Hamas stage an early morning raid on October 7 in what turned out to be a series of unguarded kibbutzim in Israel south? Why were only a few Israelis Israeli soldiers on duty that morning?

We in the media do not know the full story. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is saying nothing about Israel’s failure to defend its citizens, although a number of leading generals have publicly apologized for their lapse, and Hamas has insisted that the mission it authorized was solely aimed at the capture of a few Israeli soldiers to be used for a possible prisoner exchange. Hamas operatives began the operation early on the morning of October 7 by blowing up the unguarded fences separating Gaza from Israel.

Hamas also has claimed that the bulk of the mayhem was caused by other terrorist groups and the aggrieved citizens of Gaza who flooded across the downed gates and fences, with no Israeli soldiers to stop them. It has been widely reported that Israel, at the instigation of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was financing Hamas, via funds supplied by Qatar, in the belief that a strong Hamas would make a two-state solution, long sought by some in Washington, unlikely.

That is where we are today. Israel is now in the process of turning Gaza City into rubble, via constant bombing, and is also planning to begin a ground invasion in the near future. A well informed American official told me that the Israeli leadership is known to be considering flooding Hamas's vast tunnel system before sending in its troops, many of whom have had only a few weeks of training in the maneuvers and coordination required for the invasion. Such an act could mean that Israel was prepared to write off the hostages still in jeopardy.

Where the estimated two hundred-plus hostages are is an open question. Israel is only talking about the end of the Hamas regime, and Hamas has so far released four hostages. Two elderly Israelis were released yesterday, with no known demands.

The release was the second in three days. The first involved two Americans, a mother and her teenage daughter, who appeared to be in good health. All four were given over to the International Committee of the Red Cross. The American official told me that the Israel leadership expects more to come soon. The releases could be a sign that the Hamas leadership is feeling pressure because of the incessant bombing, which is widely assumed to be a precursor to an all-out Israel ground attack. They could also be a sign that Hamas is not going to let the Israeli bombing dictate its hostage policy. There have been secret talks about a larger release of Israeli prisoners since the first United Nations relief trucks began flowing from Egypt into southern Gaza, where up to a million hungry and thirsty refugees were waiting.

The complete aid shipment should have been delivered directly to the Red Cross representatives who are already in Gaza City, the American official told me, “but the Egyptian UN officials wanted a cut and so did Hamas.” The official said that after much back and forth late last week a deal was worked out. The distribution of the goods would be left in the hands of Red Cross officials in Gaza City, and Hamas would forward its share, the official said, to its fighters “in the tunnels and their families. The rest would go to cronies”—that is, to senior members of the Hamas leadership. In return, Hamas would release ten more hostages when the actual transfer of goods took place. It is not known whether the hostages to be released were to include any Americans.

The American official who outlined the bargaining involved did not know why the agreement fell apart. But he was dismissive of the greed involved. “The Egyptians and Palestinian factions were fighting for the relief goods,” he told me, “while the needy living without clean water and food will continue to suffer.”

One serious complication that has not been publicly discussed since the October 7 attack is that the Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, were not the sole attackers or collectors of hostages on a day in which there was no Israeli Army presence in the kibbutzim and villages under attack for at least eight hours.

“We know,” the American official told me, “that the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade participated.” He was referring to a coalition of Palestinian armed groups that have been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Israel, the European Union, and a number of other nations worldwide. (Hamas has also been designated a terrorist group by the US and the EU.)

“Was the attack a surprise to the Hamas civilian leadership? No. It was long in the planning and coordinated. The other crazies with a history of terrorism were enlisted to join forces. Did they expect success? No. Did the attacking force commit egregious atrocities? Yes. Was it unanticipated by Hamas? No. All involved proclaimed their intention and proved it in their tactics over the past twenty years. Will Israel react and destroy Hamas? Yes. Are they justified? Was the creation of a Jewish state justified? One person’s answer to the second question answers the first.” He went on: “Will the refugees die of starvation? No. Public sympathy for their genuine suffering will save the day.”

I heard a similar account of how the long-planned October 7 attack got out of control from a long-standing expert on Middle Eastern politics who has no access to American intelligence assessments. “The goal of the Palestinian operation,” he told me, “was exactly what happened—a shocking and inspired military operation that humiliated the Israelis and shook them to their foundation. Hamas military commanders had a map of bases [inside Israel] and wanted to take computer servers with all of the potentially compromising information they contained and would probably have sent them to Iran for analysis.”

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

🔴 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine:

Gaza defends and fights with its flesh and blood, and the flag will not fall.

The enemy's decision to cut off all communications and internet services to the Gaza Strip, following its threats of committing more genocidal crimes and escalating brutal bombing, is an attempt by the enemy to silence the voice of Gaza, to hide images of its crimes and defeats, and to use shock to spread fear among the steadfast residents of Gaza.

What the Popular Front fears and warns against are the ongoing brutal crimes by the enemy's army and air force against defenseless women, elderly, and children, especially given the enemy's escalation of its aerial, naval, and ground bombardment.

Any enemy ground incursion attempts, no matter their form or size, will only be met with increased resistance, and the enemy will face surprises prepared by our people's resistance that they are unaware of. Our people should be confident of the readiness and capability of the resistance.

The Front warns against exploiting the communication blackout in Gaza to spread rumors and circulate the enemy's lies, urging our people and Palestinian journalists to make their best efforts to convey the truth to the masses using any available means.

The Front calls on Palestinian companies and entities to urgently find solutions that enable the residents of Gaza to access communications, warning against any negligence in this regard, especially since these communications are essential for residents to access emergency and ambulance services.

The Front also calls for an escalation of Arab popular and official efforts to stop the aggression, emphasizing the necessity of working on bringing aid, volunteers, and international delegations to the Strip to relieve its people and wounded, and to reveal the scale of the zionist crimes committed in the Strip.

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
27th October 2023
Central Media Department.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I’m getting real tired of the Iranian Foreign Ministry talking shit

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Yoan Tuval : US official confirms to me that key reason for IDF ground invasion delay is US request to complete preps for broader conflict.

Preps incl deployment of THAAD and Patriot air defense systems in Gulf (poss also Jordan + northern Iraq) and arrival of 2000k marines

I need a better source for this, cause if it's true that's a real dumb reason to delay, cause if Israel goes in the US is gonna need more than 2000 crayon eating marines to contain the inevitable explosion all over the Arab world

It's one thing to watch babies being pulled from rubble, the part of the brain that deals with cope can almost convince you you're looking at the aftermath of a earthquake or a natural disaster

But watching some racist conscript blast and abuse Palestinian children on live TV is another story

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Iran to hold large scale military exercises next week, official announcement teaser video by the military relations office

https://streamable.com/o6oymo

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[-] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

The next in line:

Czech and Austrian leaders to visit Israel Wednesday

Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala and Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer will visit Israel in a show of solidarity, both countries’ governments have said.

The leaders will hold talks with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog, they said.

Nehammer will also meet with the family of an Austrian-Israeli national who is currently being held captive by Hamas in the Gaza Strip, the Austrian government said in a statement.
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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago
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