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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] puff@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Hot take: the IDF is advertised as a technologically advanced force but it's going to get absolutely fucked by peasants armed with Kalashnikovs in Gaza. It's going to be the US in Viet Nam all over again, bet the house on it.

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[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Israel is preparing to slaughter Israeli objectors just like it does Palestinians.

From The Guardian

Israeli media has reported that the Netanyahu government plans to approve new rules that will authorise police to use live fire on protesters blocking roads or entrances to cities inside Israel during the war.

According to the report, the rules have been championed by Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist settler and member of Netanyahu’s cabinet who oversees the police. They have received the rubber stamp of Israel’s attorney general, and will be brought before the government for authorisation on Sunday.

Before the war began on 7 October, Israeli demonstrators had been turning out weekly by the hundreds of thousands against the Netanyahu government’s plan to weaken the judiciary, with protesters regularly blocking major Israeli thoroughfares. Much smaller demonstrations have been taking places since the war started, calling for the government to work to release the Israeli hostages held by Hamas.

The war has sparked a crackdown by the Israeli government against perceived dissent, with hundreds of people arrested or disciplined for speech sympathetic to Gazans. Police have been given wide new powers to determine what applies as “support for terrorism”, and have declared they will not allow solidarity demonstrations in support of Gaza.

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[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Tunisia’s parliament to consider bill criminalizing relations with Israel (Al-Monitor, 27th of October, 2023)

Tunisia’s parliament is scheduled to consider next week a draft law criminalizing the normalization of relations with Israel as pro-Palestinian protests continue in the country amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.

According to Tarshoun, the draft law imposes penalties ranging from six to 12 years in prison, with a fine ranging from 10,000 Tunisian dinars ($3,148) to 100,000 dinars ($31,482) against anyone who attempts to or participates in economic, cultural or military activities with Israel, the Tunisian MP said.

[-] eXAt@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a Palestinian solidarity March being held at my old university ran by its communist club. The Muslim Students Association at this same university is urging everybody not to go.

What a mess.

Edit: I just realized I posted this in the news thread rather than the general thread, oops.

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago
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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Watching some footage of Israeli incursion into Gaza and... holy shit, western miltaries learned absolutely nothing from the Ukraine war. Israeli tanks are just moving in these big dumb columns. If this army tries going into Gaza-city, it'll be a complete fucking disaster

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reactionaries are pushing this around as some sort of terror attack attempt related to current events.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67177294

It might not be but it's potentially worth knowing about. Far right seems to be really leaning in on "global ethnic war" now.

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Novelist, poet, and educator Heba Abu Nada, a beloved figure in the Palestinian literary community and the author of Oxygen is Not for the Dead, was killed in her home south of Gaza City by an Israeli airstrike on Friday. She was thirty-two years old.

https://lithub.com/read-the-last-words-of-writer-heba-abu-nada-who-was-killed-last-week-by-an-israeli-airstrike/

[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)


Summary of televised Abu Obeida speech by The Cradle:

Military spokesman for Hamas' Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida:

  • The occupation's aggression and its perpetration of the Holocaust and massacres are caused by the great pain it experiences.
  • We say to the enemy who repeats his threats of ground invasion on a daily basis, that we are still waiting for him to taste new types of death.
  • The time of selling the illusion to the world about the lie of the invincible army and the supernatural Merkava is over, after we destroyed it in the Gaza Strip.
  • We wait impatiently for the time of your humiliation.
  • The curse of the eighth decade will fall upon them.
  • Be confident, our people, that our victory is coming.
    We renew our call to the honorable people of our nation and the mujahideen of the region to consider this battle a decisive battle, and to rise with us.
  • The large number of enemy prisoners we have has the price of emptying all prisons of all [Palestinian] prisoners.

Note: at one point in Arabic he said

الى الزعماء العرب ، نقول لكم من قلب المعركة التي تشاهدون لا شك تفاصيلها ، اننا لا نطالبكم بالتحرك للدفاع عن اطفال العروبة لتحريك دباباتكم لاسمح الله ، هل وصل بكم الضعف والعجز انكم لاتستطيعون تحريك سيارات اغاثة الى جزء من ارضكم العربية الاسلامية.

Translated:

To the Arab leaders, we say to you from the heart of the battle, the details of which you are undoubtedly witnessing, that we are not asking you to move to defend the children of Arabism, to move your tanks, God forbid. Have you become so weak and impotent that you are unable to move relief vehicles to a part of your Arab and Islamic land?

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

GOP Presidential Candidates Threaten to Revoke Visas From Pro-Palestine Students

“Under the Trump administration, we will revoke the student visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners at our colleges and universities and we will send them straight back home,” Trump said in Iowa on October 16, falsely conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism.

. . .

Some GOP presidential candidates have demanded that the federal government revoke funding from universities that allow students to hold Palestinian solidarity protests — which are protected under the First Amendment — on their campuses.

freeze-peach

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Update from the Front:

I awoke this morning to find my country (my apartment) had been invaded by terrorists (ants). They were not present yesterday when I was conducting environmental pollution mitigation exercises (cleaning my apartment), but they appeared to have found soft targets for their terrorism (some crumbs under a file cabinet that props up one end of my desk).

A fierce battle was waged into the early afternoon. I captured 100+ terrorists using my latest wunderwaffe (a handheld vacuum) but later released these POWs back into enemy territory (my balcony). I have conducted both aerial and ground chemical warfare attacks (sprayed lemon and eucalyptus essential oil) around suspected entrance points to deter further enemy incursions. So far the truce has held. I have taken no casualties and I estimate enemy casualties to be less than 5.

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[-] Des@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

place your bets for the chance that Israel furiously depletes their stockpile of anti-satalite missiles (assuming they have some) while taking out elon's sats and creates a cloud of high velocity shards forever trapping humans on Earth lathe-of-heaven

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I realized something about libs. They deeply unconsciously believe that no one us-foreign-policy should ever be harmed or inconvenienced for anything they didn't personally and deliberately do, and that it's never acceptable to harm or inconvenience anyone us-foreign-policy in pursuit of some large scale goal, with no awareness or interest in material conditions and realities.

They'll never support any serious action because some bystanders us-foreign-policy will get hurt and to them that makes taking any action unthinkable (as long as the bystanders us-foreign-policy pass the albedo test)

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

China's Age of Malaise

The New Yorker - in this article, China's bourgeois wonders why a country that claims to be communist isn't allowing them to further accumulate wealth and capital.

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[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

yeah I denounce Hamas. I denounce them not having a nuke

Death to America

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[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My guesses (they're pretty wild, as I know nothing of American politics):

  • They will not decide on a speaker

  • They will not be able to do any fucking thing

  • Pressure mounts as the US needs to act to keep it's colonies

  • Some false flag somewhere to justify direct action

  • Biden/Dems try a maneuver to give him special powers during time of war

  • Republicans take it as a coup and civil war begins

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

"'Never again,' is now." There's so much wrong with that short phrase.

Netanyahu says second stage of war has begun, with goal of destroying military and government of Hamas

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Saturday that the second stage of the war against Hamas has begun, with the goal of destroying the military and government of Hamas and returning hostages held in Gaza home.

“Our heroic fighters have one goal: To destroy this enemy and to make sure the existence of our country. Never again. 'Never again,' is now,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu also confirmed he spoke with the family of hostages held by Hamas and said he vowed to them that he would exhaust all options to return their loved ones.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-28-23/h_066dd2b610622ffdc011b0feaa719009

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago
[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Deranged Zionist Rabbi: Conquest is a mitzvah and God purposely surrounds Israel with enemies to hint at our religious duty to conquer.

He gets a shoutout in a Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_(Israeli_settlement)

In April 2019, the head of the school, Rabbi Eliezer Kashtiel (he), was filmed lecturing to students on the genetic inferiority of gentiles, Palestinians, on their stupidity, and the need for them to be enslaved. He endorsed racism, and the superiority of the Jewish people.

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[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 1 year ago

The Zionist entity, which has bombed the Damascus airport 4 times over past 3 weeks, has begun murdering Syrians as well

"Israel has exponentially increased its war crimes against the Syrian Arab Republic and of its citizenry. At 0:145 Damascene time, on Wednesday, 25 October the Zionist regime bombed several “sites” in Daraa countryside, murdering eight soldiers, wounding seven others, and damaging an undisclosed amount of Syrian infrastructure.

This was another double war crime by the Zionist criminals, launching its deadly bombs from Syria’s Golan, which Israel has illegally occupied since 1967, and with the most arrogant impunity.

Israel’s bloodlust is still not sated, twelve hours after its massacre of eight Syrian Arab Army soldiers in their own country, terrorist Israel once again bombed the Aleppo International Airport."

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

The number of Zionist detainees slain in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres has reached 50.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Al-Jazeera - Qatar is in the advance stages of reaching a ceasefire deal between Israel & Hamas.

A breakthrough could be achieved in the coming days.

I've seen tonnes and tonnes of rumours about this today. I think it's legit. Combined with the fact that domestically the political situation is turning against a ground operation....

I think it's a real possibility, I'm getting hopeful.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

White House has not responded to report it asked Qatar to tone down Al Jazeera’s coverage

The report by the Axios news agency said US top diplomat Antony Blinken had, less than two weeks ago, asked his Qatari counterpart to “tone down Al Jazeera’s rhetoric” on the Israel-Gaza war.

Reporting from Washington, Al Jazeera’s White House correspondent Kimberly Halkett said the administration has not responded to the report. She added that while Qatar “funds Al Jazeera, it does not in any way editorially shape our coverage”.

“I can tell you that, in my own interactions with the Biden administration, I have had pushback where I’ve been told that our coverage is critical of US foreign policy, and I defended it saying that that is healthy and that is what our job is to do,” she said.

“While there has been no attempt to try and in any way dispute this on the part of the White House, I can tell you from my own personal experiences that this certainly does echo what I have experienced here on the White House campus and in my interactions with the White House press office,” she said.

- Al Jazeera

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia has introduced a new extreme range air-to-air missile that uses passive targeting during flight, Ukrainian jets are getting no warning alarms until they're hit from ~400km

26 jets downed in the last 9 days compared to an average rate of 1-3 per week

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/10/ukraines-sudden-high-air-losses-likely-caused-by-new-russian-missiles.html

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

some perfectly normal trolleyology from the local watering hole

Here is a hypothetical: Person 1 wants to save lives over a 50 year period but it requires extra deaths now. Person 2 wants to avoid frontloading deaths knowing it will result in a much higher total death count over 50 years. Who is more pro genocide?

brainworms amerikkka frothingfash

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck - American cops.

"We don't have an official suspect in the murder right now but we already know it's not a hate crime." And I have to wonder if the untouched flag is "proof" to the cops it wasn't a hate crime.

Samantha Woll: Authorities conducting 'countless interviews' to determine a suspect and motive in Detroit synagogue leader's fatal stabbing | CNN

Authorities do not believe at this time that the crime was motivated by antisemitism, White said, adding police believe the assailant acted alone.

“We have a number of people that give us interest, we are just short of calling one of the people a suspect, but we are working to that end,” the chief said. “We are confident that we’re going to develop a suspect, we’re not there right now as of this press conference.”

Woll had a large Israeli flag in her apartment that was left untouched, a law enforcement source told CNN earlier.

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

"If it comes down to it, you could totally take on the entire Arab world by yourself"

  • Sun Tzionist
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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL - Hospital Bombing

Based on the geolocation of new footage its highly likely that:

The missile -Al Jazeera footage- is an interceptor. (Iron Dome) The explosion in the air is too far away to be related to the hospital explosion.

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1716113399728218618?t=ShtdLt8NYE-Hi0BhBpS-CQ&s=19

No fucking way! This is what happens when any idiot online can become an "OSINT expert."

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