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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

The Wafa news agency reports that today in Jerusalem Israeli police shut down access for Muslims to al-Aqsa mosque. It says: “Authorities tightened entry into the mosque since the morning, where only the elderly were allowed to enter. However, this quickly changed and all worshippers of all ages were denied entry into al-Aqsa mosque, which was an unusual move not taken for months.” It reports that Jewish residents wishing to pray within the compound were allowed entry, “in violation of the status quo”, which has been that the compound is only available for Muslim worship. x

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

I was just reading a little bit about white phosphorus. Sounds way worse than say mustard gas. Just one more hypocrisy to add onto the pile that someone like Assad deserves to get bombed for (being accused of) having mustard gas, yet Israel and the US can use white phosphorus with impunity and that’s a-ok.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

IDF tanks are storming Gaza from all eastern and northern directions. A major battle is currently taking place in the area of the separation fence.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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hahaha im more terminally online than you guys hahahaha

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im going to bed now

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

The head of the World Health Organization said the agency had lost touch with its staff in Gaza, as well as its health facilities, health workers and the rest of its humanitarian partners on the ground. “This siege makes me gravely concerned for their safety and the immediate health risks of vulnerable patients,” Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director general of the W.H.O., wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/27/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/c5a17168-c7b8-548e-984d-85aafb17ddc5?smid=url-share

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Darkest Speaker election timeline:

  • No speaker is elected for months
  • Government shuts down
  • Biden gets Congress to agree that military spending is national security and that they can vote on it without a speaker
  • This becomes the norm and any non military spending is forever halted because there is never another Speaker
  • All new laws are exclusively Executive Orders
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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

My anti-Zionist jewish friend sent me this tumblr post from another anti-Zionist jew talking about the "how to be Anti-Zionist without being antisemetic" subject, and told me its the first one of those posts that she's largely agreed with.

My friend asks that y'all not leave comments or anything please :)

I think its interesting that the post says that the "they can just go back, dual citizenship" rhetoric that Ive seen people here using is a problem because it doesnt reflect reality.

Person seems to be pretty comited to ending aparthied so I dont think they're coming at this in bad faith. And so I think these are good points to keep in mind.

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Our longing has grown.
The time for revenge has come.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

🟢⚫️🔴♦️🟩 Statement issued by the Palestinian forces: Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement), Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command:

The five Palestinian powers held a leadership meeting, in Beirut, today, Saturday, October 28, 2023, to discuss the course of Al-Aqsa Flood Battle with the zionist enemy and its brutal aggression against the Gaza Strip.

In their statement, the five powers saluted the martyrs of our Palestinian people and our steadfast and proud people in the Gaza Strip who are facing an organized campaign of extermination, stressing that they are the people of pride, dignity and steadfastness and that they are the people of victory who are loyal to their cause and their homeland, and [the Palestinian forces] pledged to them to continue on the path of resistance until victory is achieved over the zionist enemy.

The attendees affirmed the following:

• This heroic epic is the battle of the entire Palestinian people, which they are waging in defense of their land, their sanctities, their existence, and their right to freedom, against a barbaric enemy that does not spare any of our people from its crimes. It targets hospitals, mosques, churches, universities, and ambulances, and cuts off electricity, water, fuel, the Internet, and cellular communications for our besieged people.

• Adhering to national unity is a main pillar in confronting the zionist war of genocide against our people, as well as rejecting the enemy’s attempts to divide our people or monopolize any part of it. We stress unifying efforts and closing ranks in this fateful battle.

• We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation and the free people of the world to continue their movements to stop the American-zionist aggression, open the border crossings, bring in humanitarian aid and fuel, and remove the wounded from the Gaza Strip.

• We salute the resistance forces in our nation, especially in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran, and we affirm that our Palestinian people are not alone in this battle.

• We hold the United States of America fully responsible for the war of genocide against our people as it chose to support, escalate, and participate in the war of genocide against our people, which requires a strong response from the Arab and Islamic countries as well as countries friendly to our people to stop this ongoing massacre of our Palestinian people.

• We demand the opening of the Rafah crossing and the entry of aid, humanitarian needs, fuel, and medical and relief teams to our people without delay, allowing the wounded to be transported to Egypt and the Arab and Islamic countries, without interference from the occupation or any of the aggression countries.

• We call on the masses of our people throughout occupied Palestine to escalate all forms of resistance and struggle against the zionist enemy, targeting its soldiers and settlers, and strengthening popular initiatives of struggle in the face of settler attacks and the encroachment of enemy forces.

• The enemy’s cutting of all access to Gaza, besieging it, and cutting off communications and the Internet completely is a cover for a major crime of genocide that the enemy does not want witnesses to, and we stress breaking this siege with an “official and popular” Arab position.

• We adhere to the right of our people to resist, and its confidence in the victory of our people in this battle, as we fight this battle in defense of our land, our people, and our sanctities, and for the sake of liberation, return, self-determination, and the establishment of the Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.

Glory to the martyrs.

Healing for the wounded.

Freedom for the prisoners.

Victory to our people and their valiant resistance.

Saturday, October 28, 2023

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Famous last words: https://nitter.cz/plovejet/status/1718348201504166161

I swear to God one of the most exciting parts about entering Gaza will be the fact I won't be on Twitter and seeing all the god awful takes on this conflict.

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[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Ukrainian Rezident channel claims Zelensky is furious at Biden’s egregious $100B aid package because it’s too large as to be realistic and appears more a deliberate virtue signal or token attempt at help:

Ukrainian channel Rezident: Our source in the Office of the President said that the Office of the President considers the actions of the Biden Administration destructive regarding financial support for Ukraine for 2024. Instead of a realistic relief package for our country, the White House is asking for record amounts that will definitely be blocked by the Republicans. All these actions are aimed at disrupting financial and military assistance to Ukraine in order to agree with the Kremlin to freeze the conflict in our country along the front line.

So the stabbed in the back theory being floated here is that Biden is hoping his big bazooka funding request for Ukraine will fail so he can wash his hands of the blame. That he intentionally made a proposal the house republicans won’t accept.

From https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/sitrep-102423-avdeevka-victories

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Tank, Artillery & Jets all pounding the Gaza strip from all directions right now as we speak, a Gaza channel says it's total confusion right now as to what's unfolding.

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[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

I might misrember things but didnt American POWs complained about horrible conditions and then it was revealed that was just the living standard of vietnam thanks to the war?

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

have people seen this thing about the national march on washington for palestine? are people planning on joining, do we know if there's a way to help out without actually going (because i am immunocompromised and very sick rn)

should someone make this a post and pin it maybe?

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[-] jimbojambo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Some rumours from leftist Arab sources on Twitter that American ships have been hit in the Red Sea by Houthi rebels. Waiting for confirmation.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess we're at the "collateral damage" phase of the war.

I heard the phrase for the first time on American tv news ~1 minute ago.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

🇸🇾🇺🇲⚡️There are reports of a powerful explosion at a US base near the al-Omar oil field in Deir ez-Zor province. The facility has been attacked before.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago
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[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

the date is 10/26/23, we are hearing about another 1/10th of a 9/11 occurring in Maine. There have been 30 or so 9/11's since 10/7/23 in Israel alone. Over 100 9/11's since this past 9/11. Even more if you were to count Palestinians. When will the 9/11's themselves wake up to their own 9/11? Every moment has become a worse tragedy since the last 9/11 and every 9/12 before me looks to become another 9/11 stretching into the abyss. Infinite, recursive 9/11. An inescapable cataclysm in which we are all embodied in the large, jet-fuel-drenched towers, suffocating amongst the melted steel beams. An infinite number of passenger jets are crashing into an endless expanse of financial headquarters. I am born each day at 8:46 AM. The world is watching. I die each morning at 10:28 AM as the North Tower collapse before me. The world grieves for me, but I only crave more blood. I open my eyes and I am born again. The date is still 9/11 liberty-weeping

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago
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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Acting Prime Minster Richard Marles announced earlier that the country would send a "significant number" of ADF troops and two RAAF aircraft to the Middle East.

Unusually, for what he labelled "operational and security reasons", the acting prime minister would not confirm where the troops would be stationed, or their number.

"They will join an existing aircraft which is in the Middle East, so that takes the total to three and with them will be a contingent of Australian personnel which is a pretty significant contingent of personnel," he said.

"australia is a middle power with global interests"

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Various westerners are coming to terms with technology not actually being a magic element that makes one side invincible.

Chuds but I think the fact they're discussing something we've all been saying for years is notable.

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[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 year ago

🔴 Breaking News 🔴

Health Ministry iGaza: Over 700 killed during the past 24 hours, including more than 300 children

(Source Al Masirah)

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Rybar analysis on the prisoners situation.

🇮🇱🇮🇷 🇵🇸 The head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, while in New York, made an important statement that could change the situation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

▪️ Palestinian factions have announced their readiness to release non-military hostages to Iran.

▪️ In return, Hamas declares its willingness to negotiate through the mediation of Qatar and Turkey and demands the release of six thousand Palestinian hostages from Israeli prisons.

▪️ The Palestinians, who were once seen as terrorists by the international community, are now showing their willingness to negotiate and make a gesture of goodwill.

▪️ Russia and China have gained points by advocating for the release of hostages during the negotiations. Iran, Qatar, and Turkey are also involved in this process.

🔻The Israelis are now finding it extremely inconvenient to sell the narrative that the Palestinians are terrorists, especially since the population seems to have forgotten the events of October 7-8 amidst the extensive bombing of the Gaza Strip.

It is becoming more difficult to dismiss the need to negotiate with Hamas, as public opinion is shifting towards the belief that it is possible to engage with the Palestinians diplomatically.

In the course of the 19-day conflict, the role of the "aggressor" has shifted from the Arabs to the Israelis. While the former are striving for negotiations, the latter's behavior is becoming increasingly inappropriate.

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[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Rules based international order! A tale of two votes

Condemning Russia:

Calling for a Humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza:

The UN Secretary-General called for a humanitarian ceasefire (the bare minimum, really). The US and Israel among other western countries are against it.

We already knew the rules based world is complete bullshit, here's yet more proof that the western power elite is as morally corrupt as they come.

When I think about protecting the security of the United States and the world, I am clear-eyed. One of our defining missions is to strengthen the international rules-based order — to defend it, to promote it, and to build on it.

The absolute gall of these fuckers.

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Footage shows crowds, displaced people at threathened al-Quds Hospital

Aerial footage of al-Quds Hospital shows significant gathering of displaced individuals seeking refuge in the hospital’s courtyards.

Hospital authorities report receiving five warnings from the Israeli army, with warnings that the premises will be bombed imminently. The hospital is located in Tal al-Hawa, in Gaza City, and affiliated with the Palestinian Red Crescent. Hundreds of citizens have flocked to the hospital as it continues to admit victims of the ongoing Israeli bombardment in Gaza.

The footage, shot hours before the Israeli threats and obtained by Al Jazeera on Sunday, also reveal the presence of ambulances and medical teams stationed at the hospital’s entrance. The hospital is sheltering 12,000 displaced civilians, with a majority being children and women.

Sounds like a misfired PIJ rocket is going to go off soon, why would the PIJ do this thonk

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Israel media: There is news blackout imposed of a dangerous event on the Gaza Strip border.

Withdrawal of the Israeli forces in Gaza now.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

In more fascist infighting news, look at how Charlie Kirk had to carefully thread the needle in order to not have his audience split between "I hate Jews more than Arabs" and "I hate Arabs more than Jews" factions: https://nitter.cz/charliekirk11/status/1716471746063466882. It's extremely telling he waited until today to even address the church bombing.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 1 year ago

Still think this is one of the funniest things Ive seen on twitter

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

C-Span caller, heavy southern accent but Democrat: "the Speaker of the House needs to be non-bi-..."

The Speaker needs to be non-binary.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Multiple Israeli Raids now reported from various locations of the Gaza Strip

This might be starting.

These Raids are still ongoing but new incursions by the israeli army at different locations in the gaza strip are being reported.

These are a "special kind" of raids as reported by one source.

Israeli raids with CAS on hand

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