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I think that it's interesting to look back at calls that were wrong to try to help improve future ones.

Maybe it was a tech company that you thought wouldn't make it and did well or vice versa. Maybe a technology you thought had promise and didn't pan out. Maybe a project that you thought would become the future but didn't or one that you thought was going to be the next big thing and went under.

Four from me:

  • My first experience with the World Wide Web was on an rather unstable version of lynx on a terminal. I was pretty unimpressed. Compared to gopher clients of the time, it was harder to read, the VAX/VMS build I was using crashed frequently, and was harder to navigate around. I wasn't convinced that it was going to go anywhere. The Web has obviously done rather well since then.

  • In the late 1990s, Apple was in a pretty dire state, and a number of people, including myself, didn't think that they likely had much of a future. Apple turned things around and became the largest company in the world by market capitalization for some time, and remains quite healthy.

  • When I first ran into it, I was skeptical that Wikipedia would manage to stave off spam and parties with an agenda sufficiently to remain useful as it became larger. I think that it's safe to say that Wikipedia has been a great success.

  • After YouTube throttled per-stream download speeds, rendering youtube-dl much less useful, the yt-dlp project came to the fore, which worked around this with parallel downloads. I thought that it was very likely that YouTube wouldn't tolerate this


it seems to me to have all the drawbacks of youtube-dl from their standpoint, plus maybe more, and shouldn't be too hard to detect. But at least so far, they haven't throttled or blocked it.

Anyone else have some of their own that they'd like to share?

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Around 2000, graphene was a very hot material. I was pretty excited by it and thought carbon-based high-Farad capacitors would essentially replace lead acid and lithium ion batteries in most consumer electronics within a decade, maybe two.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

In the mid-nineties I passionately believed that the internet would democratize information and usher in a wonderful new era of well-informed critical thinking and general enlightenment. Basically the opposite has happened.

Man I think all of us mistakenly thought this. The early internet had such promise.

[-] kevin2107@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

it was like that for a few. now AI will definitely make people braindead, how many years of brainrot can the mind endure?

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I often think about an Arthur C. Clarke book—I think Songs of Distant Earth?—that has a colony of humans that solves all the big debate questions facing their society anonymously through the internet, which has completely solved the problem of judging ideas based on who said them.

Bless the optimists.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

considers

I've been in a couple conversation threads about this topic before on here. I'm more optimistic.

I think that the Internet has definitely democratized information in many ways. I mean, if you have an Internet connection, you have access to a huge amount of information. Your voice has an enormous potential reach. A lot of stuff where one would have had to buy expensive reference works or spend a lot of time digging information up are now readily available to anyone with Internet access.

I think that the big issue wasn't that people became less critical, but that one stopped having experts filter what one saw. In, say, 1996, most of what I read had passed through the hands of some sort of professional or professionals specialized in writing. For newspapers or magazines, maybe it was a journalist and their editor. For books, an author and their editor and maybe a typesetter.

Like, in 1996, I mostly didn't get to actually see the writing of Average Joe. In 2026, I do, and Average Joe plays a larger role in directly setting the conversation. That is democratization. Average Joe of 2026 didn't, maybe, become a better journalist than the professional journalist of 1996. But...I think that it's very plausible that he's a better journalist than Average Joe of 1996.

Would it have been reasonable to expect Average Joe of 2026 to, in addition to all the other things he does, also be better at journalism than a journalist of 1996? That seems like a high bar to set.

And we're also living in a very immature environment as our current media goes. I am not sold that this is the end game.

There's a quote from Future Shock


written in 1970, but I think that we can steal the general idea for today:

It has been observed, for example, that if the last 50,000 years of man's existence were divided into lifetimes of approximately sixty-two years each, there have been about 800 such lifetimes. Of these 800, fully 650 were spent in caves.

Only during the last seventy lifetimes has it been possible to communicate effectively from one lifetime to another—as writing made it possible to do. Only during the last six lifetimes did masses of men ever see a printed word. Only during the last four has it been possible to measure time with any precision. Only in the last two has anyone anywhere used an electric motor. And the overwhelming majority of all the material goods we use in daily life today have been developed within the present, the 800th, lifetime.

That's just to drive home how extremely rapidly the environment in which we all live has shifted compared to how it had in the past. In that quote, Alvin Toffler was talking about how incredibly quickly things had changed in that it had only been six lifetimes since the public as a whole had seen printed text, how much things had changed. But in 2026, we live in a world where it has only been a quarter of a lifetime, less for most, since much of the global population of humanity has been intimately linked by near-instant, inexpensive, mass communication.

I think that it would be awfully unexpected and surprising if we would have immediately figured out conventions and social structures and technical solutions to every deficiency for such a new environment. Social media is a very new thing in the human experience at this scale. I think that it is very probable that humanity will


partly by trial-and-error, getting some scrapes and bruises along the way


develop practices to smooth over rough spots and address problems.

Consider, say, the early motorcar, which had no seatbelts, windscreen, roof, suspension, was driven on a road infrastructure designed for horse-drawn carts to travel maybe ten miles an hour, didn't have a muffler, didn't have an electric starter, lacked electric headlights and other lighting, an instrument panel, and all that. It probably had a lot of very glaring problems as a form of transportation to people who saw it. An awful lot of those problems have been solved over time. I think that it would be very surprising if electronic mass communication available to everyone doesn't do something similar.

[-] Nolvamia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Having been on a few Segway tours I was surprised when they stopped making them. Easy to learn, fun to ride. Eventually they will age out and be gone. I wouldn't buy one for myself to have at home, but for whizzing around sightseeing when on holiday they're great.

[-] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

I thought cameras on phones were a gimmick. To be fair, they were pretty low quality back then but I still use it to remind myself not to be too overconfident because boy was I wrong.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh they definitely felt like a gimmick at First

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

For reference, the first generation of IPhone actually preceded the IPod Touch, but the Touch reached my friend group first. Thus my reaction when I first heard of the IPhone was more or less,

"The IPod Touch is a gimmick, and now they want to make it your phone? Why the hell would anyone want a touchscreen phone in your pocket? Touchscreens are finnicky at the best of times, break at the slightest provocation, and a whole computer in your pocket would cost an absolute fortune. There's nothing wrong about just carrying an Mp3 player and phone separate in your pocket; this is just Apple selling an overpriced toy to their fanboys. Touch-screen computer-phones will never take off."

Boy do I feel like an idiot now.

[-] mech@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Around 2009 I predicted that very soon, Linux smartphones you can plug into a docking station to use as a desktop PC would become the standard consumer computing device.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 week ago

And I can't really understand why we aren't there yet. Do we really need 8 cores to phone and read IMs? And isn't there an OS that works both on mobile and desktop? I'm baffled.

[-] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dock it in a laptop shell. And then the phone being the touchpad for the mouse. This was my prediction too. I'm still hoping.

[-] Flaxseed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Still hoping…

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

The nearest thing we have is the Steam Deck dock.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

It's so obvious, I wish they had caught on! I remember there was a failed Ubuntu phone Kickstarter for exactly this...

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Samsung even had a feature in their phones copying this. Looks like its still present but was left to rot though

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I remember playing with a Motorola Atrix in a store. It seemed like a really cool idea.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I thought people would learn how to use computers.

It seemed as if most of the millennial generation in wealthy countries did learn to some degree and I expected it to be even more true for younger generations. Those more sophisticated users would enable more sophisticated and flexible applications. Technology would empower individuals while weakening corporations and governments.

Instead, the most reliable recipe for popularizing tech is to dumb it down. Millennials represent a peak of digital literacy (in wealthy countries) and those younger tend to have weaker technical skills.

[-] northernlights@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

"Bitcoin will never take". I mined a few at the very beginning when it was easy, out of curiosity, and didn't bother backing up because it was useless anyway. Ahem.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mined a bit too. Got almost 2 bitcoin in 2 weeks. Figured it was a pyramid scheme, went back to running folding@home. Forgot my wallet passphrase.

[-] Zealotte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

"Nintendo should admit defeat and focus on making games for other platforms and mobile devices." - Me, after the Wii U and a little before the Switch launched.

[-] Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I hate microsoft but really liked windows phone and cortana. Something about tiles made a lot of sense and the keyboard was clean af.

I am very sure they were the first to have url bar above the keyboard in their browser WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE YOUR FINGERS ARE ALREADY AT THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE PHONE LIKE OMFG.

like there was so many little things they did that just worked and worked well. rip windows phone, i will tell my grandkids about you.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I sold all of my Apple stock because they wanted to make a phone and I thought that would end poorly, so I should take my profits while I could.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

I mean, the Newton hadn't done well. The Pippin hadn't done well. The eMate hadn't done well. What were the odds of Apple doing a really successful new consumer electronics product?

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[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 2 points 1 week ago

When the 3DS came out I was sure it would be a stepping stone to 3D TVs that didn't require glasses.

3D TVs basically died out by now.

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[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

When Steam first appeared (and was required to play Half-Life 2 IIRC), I thought that was a ridiculous idea to have a middle man to play a game. Well, what do I know, everyone loves Steam now (yet hates on other launchers).

I thought drones were just going to be a fad, but they've become huge, especially in terms of government and corporate surveillance. I should have realized the way it was going when America started using them militarily. American military inventions almost always end up becoming popular consumer products/applications.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They've not even started for most of the domestic and consumer uses. They're only just scratching the surface of commercial and military application.

In 30 years people will have subscriptions to a drone service that will take x# of packages for them within their city/geography per month/year with weight tiers. Etc. errands and single use car trips and commercial trips in the last mile will drastically decrease.

The skies will never be as they are again. The generation growing up right now will be the last to have been able to look up at the vast expanse without some buzzing. Whirring distraction.

[-] waggz@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

if I had been in the stock market in the 90s I would've gotten very rich then lost it all on iomega

[-] cheeseburger@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

My parents made us a Betamax household well into the mid 90s; always relegated to the small shitty section of the video rental store.

In the 2000s I wanted to avoid another format pushed by Sony, so I went with HD-DVD over Bluray... sigh. I even got the Xbox 360 external HD-DVD drive.

[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My uncle got an Xbox 360 specifically because Smallville was coming out on hddvd instead of Bluray. He could never find that hd dvd drive until the format war was over, and I ended up with the 360.

[-] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I thought VR would be more widespread by now.

And it's probably because of the two next things I thought as well.

I thought it would be cheaper and easier to do by now. More like a Google Glass kind of thing. But we're still playing 4 figures for dedicated massive headsets to strap to our heads. No wonder it didn't take off.

And I mean dedicated like the HTC Vive. Not the Quest.

[-] AlternateHuman02@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This was my thought as well. I really thought it would be better by now. Fingers crossed for the steam frame!

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I thought Apple/most smartphones would never move to USB-C, or away from proprietary chargers. Pleasantly surprised - thank you EU.

I thought wireless controllers were going to be a fad, or at least garbage in their reliability/connection strength.

I thought VR was finally going to take off as the next major gaming experience when the Vive came out. Unfortunately it remains niche.

I thought Linux was going to be unusable for gaming/mainstream use cases for much longer, but Valve has made huge strides on that with Proton, and OSS devs making things like Heroic for other stores has been awesome. Also shoutout to KDE for, well, everything. Krita, KDE connect, Plasma. LibreOffice has also come a very long way.

I also thought we’d never get another steam controller. Also pleasantly surprised.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

In the late nineties, I thought the availability of online knowledge would make universities obsolete.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 week ago

...yeah, i initally considered the `web an also-ran gopher knockoff, too...

[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I never thought tablet computers would become popular among the mainstream public.

When the iPad first came out, it was functionally worse than even the cheap netbooks, and I didn't see much purpose in the larger screen with phones getting bigger and bigger every year. Wireless display was also already available, so I envisioned people would just cast content to a TV if they really wanted a bigger screen. Even reading articles etc seemed to be already covered by eReaders, which were already available for half a decade by the time the iPad released.

Little did I know how brain rotted people would become.

Tbh I personally still don't see the utility in most tablets, except in specific niches like in digital note taking/drawing, or industrial cases where it becomes a glorified HUD.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Physical buttons on phones would win out over gimmicky touch screens

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

I remember thinking similarly. Specifically "well duh you'll just be hitting buttons with your face on calls with those dang touchscreen phones" except it turned out I spend way less time on phonecalls than circa 2006 me could have ever imagined, and also the proximity sensor blanking the screen and blocking input works really good (and even did back in the early 2010s when I got my first smartphone)

[-] MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I thought that AMDs move with Ryzen being heavily multi core architecture was dumb, and that they'd fail like bulldozer

[-] zerofk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I thought blu-ray would supplant DVD-RW for storing and transferring data, including for buying software. Much like DVD replaced CD, which replaced diskettes. Turns out both were replaced by cloud and streaming, with a short interlude for USB sticks.

Al still have their niches, but buying software and storing data is pretty much all online now.

[-] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I thought you’d have to go into a physical store, connect your MP3 player to a special computer, and download music there. I didn’t anticipate iTunes.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Neither did Sony, lol.

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